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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 10:47am
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NFHS Rules: Pass eligibility for the player on the end of line.

Can someone direct me to the location in the NFHS rule book that covers when a player that’s on the end of the line is eligible or not given that he is numbered properly.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 11:16am
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You might want to refine your question to the

scenario you are trying to portray:

Rule 2-31-3 defines a back.


Rule 2-31-9: defines a lineman

Rule 7-2-5 discusses formation, position, numbering and action at the snap. This is probably the rule you want.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 11:28am
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Scenario: Tight end on the end of the line, with a single wide out that is also on the line.
At the snap tight end and wide out proceed down field for a pass the crosses the LOS.

Is there a particular rule or case scenario that addresses this formation and play
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 11:33am
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Scenario: Tight end on the end of the line, with a single wide out that is also on the line.
At the snap tight end and wide out proceed down field for a pass the crosses the LOS.

Is there a particular rule or case scenario that addresses this formation and play
You mean besides the one for ineligible downfield?
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 11:37am
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Scenario: Tight end on the end of the line, with a single wide out that is also on the line.
At the snap tight end and wide out proceed down field for a pass the crosses the LOS.

Is there a particular rule or case scenario that addresses this formation and play

the TE is ineligible because the wide out covered him. Try the case book 7.2.5Situation B. I think this best describes what you are looking for.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 11:39am
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Where in the rule book does it state that the player is ineligible in this scenario

I can't seem to find it in the rule book.

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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 11:40am
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 11:42am
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The only eligible players are the ones on the end of their line or legally in the back field. Since he is covered by with wide out he is ineligible.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 12:05pm
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Where in the rule book does it state that the player is ineligible in this scenario

I can't seem to find it in the rule book.

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Pg. 58 7.5.6a

All A players eligible by position and number include those, who at the time of the snap, are on the ends of their scrimmage line or legally behind the line (possible total of 6) and are numbered 1-49 and 80-99.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 12:26pm
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Can anyone explain this rule to JH coaches? I'm in my first year so I'm working mostly at the middle school level. Any time I try to explain this to a coach, they look at me like I'm speaking Chinese.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 12:40pm
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Can anyone explain this rule to JH coaches? I'm in my first year so I'm working mostly at the middle school level. Any time I try to explain this to a coach, they look at me like I'm speaking Chinese.
That's because they have no idea of what a rule book is. By the way, which Chinese dialect?

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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 12:41pm
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What don't they understand? The eligibility rules are clear cut, on the end of the line or in the back field. What are they saying to you?
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 12:53pm
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Flawed theories

Sadly, some think that because one is called something, say a tight end, that it makes it so.

Kind of like when coach says, "that's not blocking below the waist, that's cut blocking- we teach our guys to do that."
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 02:18pm
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...Tight end on the end of the line, with a single wide out that is also on the line.
REPLY: This is what confuses people. Once there's a player (wideout) also on the line, the TE is no longer an "end." He becomes an interior lineman, governed by all the rules that govern guards and tackles. That's why he's ineligible. Only the players on the end of the line (or backs) are eligible. The coach can call this guy anything he wants, but he's no longer an end when there's a lineman outside him.
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Old Thu Sep 21, 2006, 02:38pm
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I think in the situation it is obvoius that the formation was screwed up and one of them was supposed to be off the line. Thye know it and IMO are playing stupid.
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