BArangers Can someone direct me to the location in the NFHS rule book that covers when a player that’s on the end of the line is eligible or not given that he is numbered properly.
HLin NC scenario you are trying to portray: Rule 2-31-3 defines a back. Rule 2-31-9: defines a lineman Rule 7-2-5 discusses formation, position, numbering and action at the snap. This is probably the rule you want.
BArangers Thanks for the reply: Scenario: Tight end on the end of the line, with a single wide out that is also on the line. At the snap tight end and wide out proceed down field for a pass the crosses the LOS. Is there a particular rule or case scenario that addresses this formation and play
Rich BArangers wroteThanks for the reply: Scenario: Tight end on the end of the line, with a single wide out that is also on the line. At the snap tight end and wide out proceed down field for a pass the crosses the LOS. Is there a particular rule or case scenario that addresses this formation and play You mean besides the one for ineligible downfield?
FootballRef05 BArangers wroteThanks for the reply: Scenario: Tight end on the end of the line, with a single wide out that is also on the line. At the snap tight end and wide out proceed down field for a pass the crosses the LOS. Is there a particular rule or case scenario that addresses this formation and play the TE is ineligible because the wide out covered him. Try the case book 7.2.5Situation B. I think this best describes what you are looking for.
BArangers Where in the rule book does it state that the player is ineligible in this scenario I can't seem to find it in the rule book. Thanks
FootballRef05 The only eligible players are the ones on the end of their line or legally in the back field. Since he is covered by with wide out he is ineligible.
FootballRef05 BArangers wroteWhere in the rule book does it state that the player is ineligible in this scenario I can't seem to find it in the rule book. Thanks Pg. 58 7.5.6a All A players eligible by position and number include those, who at the time of the snap, are on the ends of their scrimmage line or legally behind the line (possible total of 6) and are numbered 1-49 and 80-99.
Junker Can anyone explain this rule to JH coaches? I'm in my first year so I'm working mostly at the middle school level. Any time I try to explain this to a coach, they look at me like I'm speaking Chinese.
bluezebra Junker wroteCan anyone explain this rule to JH coaches? I'm in my first year so I'm working mostly at the middle school level. Any time I try to explain this to a coach, they look at me like I'm speaking Chinese. That's because they have no idea of what a rule book is. By the way, which Chinese dialect? Bob
FootballRef05 What don't they understand? The eligibility rules are clear cut, on the end of the line or in the back field. What are they saying to you?
HLin NC Sadly, some think that because one is called something, say a tight end, that it makes it so.:rolleyes: Kind of like when coach says, "that's not blocking below the waist, that's cut blocking- we teach our guys to do that."
Bob M. BArangers wrote...Tight end on the end of the line, with a single wide out that is also on the line. REPLY: This is what confuses people. Once there's a player (wideout) also on the line, the TE is no longer an "end." He becomes an interior lineman, governed by all the rules that govern guards and tackles. That's why he's ineligible. Only the players on the end of the line (or backs) are eligible. The coach can call this guy anything he wants, but he's no longer an end when there's a lineman outside him.
FootballRef05 I think in the situation it is obvoius that the formation was screwed up and one of them was supposed to be off the line. Thye know it and IMO are playing stupid.
grantsrc Bob M. wroteREPLY: This is what confuses people. Once there's a player (wideout) also on the line, the TE is no longer an "end." He becomes an interior lineman, governed by all the rules that govern guards and tackles. That's why he's ineligible. Only the players on the end of the line (or backs) are eligible. The coach can call this guy anything he wants, but he's no longer an end when there's a lineman outside him. But Bob, what about a TE wearing number 62 that reports as eligible before the down? Is he eligible? 😎
FootballRef05 grantsrc wroteBut Bob, what about a TE wearing number 62 that reports as eligible before the down? Is he eligible? :cool: There is no reporting as eligible in NFHS. He is ineligible by number.
grantsrc FootballRef05 wroteThere is no reporting as eligible in NFHS. He is ineligible by number. I know that, hence the face with the sunglasses. I had a junior high coach tell me that once. I smiled simply and said, "this aint sunday coach."