delay of game

[yankeesfan]

team A is called for a delay of game, if team B declines the penalty would the clock start on the ready for play?

[ljudge]

Generally, yes. But if it happened to be stopped from the prior play, then no.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by yankeesfan

team A is called for a delay of game, if team B declines the penalty would the clock start on the ready for play?

Canadian rules dictate that after a Time Count foul, the clock starts on the snap.

[Theisey]

The NFHS rule is pretty clear about this, if the clock was stopped because of a delay foul, it will start on the snap if the penalty is accepted.

NCAA rule is different and we can discuss that if you are asking about that code.

[DJ_NV]

Is there any benefit to the NCAA code as far as DOG? I'm not sure I like that the clock (if running) is only started on the snap if A is in a SK formation, but maybe someone can explain the logic that I'm not seeing.

Example: Had a play last weekend, about 1:45 left in the game and 3/10 for Team A who is leading by 3. They're waiting til the last possible second to snap the ball (there's a visual 25-sec clock on the field) and they're not in a SK formation. Clock gets to 00 and Team B is screaming for a DOG (something happened and Team A was confused about the snap right around :02 on the play clock but probably would've gotten the snap off at about a second or two after the PC expired. Again, Team B is screaming for a DOG so I give it to them. We march off 5 and then wind it. Team B coach goes nuts because we're winding it and I tell him that that's the rule because they weren't in an SK formation. So amazingly he starts yelling that it's a horrible rule (and not at me) because now they just get another :25.
Now the question is whether the R should've wound the clock on the RFP as he knew that A was trying to run out the clock but assuming they weren't intentionally trying to get a DOG? What if they were? Is it on the snap then?

[Theisey]

DJ_NV: are you asking about an NFHS rules game or NCAA rule game in your post?

As far as NCAA goes, being in scrimmage kick formation means something a little different than it does for NFHS. It's the same verbiage with the added words " it's obvious that a kick may be attempted".

Being that it was 3/10, that is not obvious there will be a kick under NCAA rules. In that case, the clock starts on the RFP unless the Referee really believes they are trying to illegal consume time.

Team-A can legally wait until the play clock is about to roll from 01 to 00 without a delay call.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by Theisey

DJ_NV: are you asking about an NFHS rules game or NCAA rule game in your post?

As far as NCAA goes, being in scrimmage kick formation means something a little different than it does for NFHS. It's the same verbiage with the added words " it's obvious that a kick may be attempted".

Being that it was 3/10, that is not obvious there will be a kick under NCAA rules. In that case, the clock starts on the RFP unless the Referee really believes they are trying to illegal consume time.

Team-A can legally wait until the play clock is about to roll from 01 to 00 without a delay call.

If home was ahead, and there was 1:45 on the clock, you can be DAMN sure they were trying to run the clock down. R blew it on this one, there's NO question it should have been started on the snap in this case.

[JasonTX]

There is an AR for NCAA that is pretty specific to this type of play. See AR-3-4-3 I.