delay of game

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by Theisey

DJ_NV: are you asking about an NFHS rules game or NCAA rule game in your post?

As far as NCAA goes, being in scrimmage kick formation means something a little different than it does for NFHS. It's the same verbiage with the added words " it's obvious that a kick may be attempted".

Being that it was 3/10, that is not obvious there will be a kick under NCAA rules. In that case, the clock starts on the RFP unless the Referee really believes they are trying to illegal consume time.

Team-A can legally wait until the play clock is about to roll from 01 to 00 without a delay call.

If home was ahead, and there was 1:45 on the clock, you can be DAMN sure they were trying to run the clock down. R blew it on this one, there's NO question it should have been started on the snap in this case.

[DJ_NV]

Theisey,

This was NCAA and like mcrowder stated, they were most certainly trying to consume time. My question is that by taking the DOG foul and subsequently being penalized, is this considered consuming time illegally?

On one hand, one might argue that while the DOG in itself was illegal, it's not against the rules to voluntarily commit a foul. Of course the foul itself is illegal, and they chose to accept the prescribed penalty of 5 yards. In other words, they committed a crime (DOG foul), served the sentence (5 yards) and life (play) goes on according to rule. In this case, by starting the clock on the RFP per 3-2-5-a-4.

On the other hand, this goes against conventional logic as a team could do this over the course of 3 or 4 downs and take almost 2 minutes off the game clock. I think all of us would argue that this is using time via illegal means and the R should use discretion and start the clock on the snap.

However, even with 1:45 on the clock, if this happens only once should the R step in and overrule 3-2-5-a-4?

thanks

[Theisey]

Originally Posted by DJ_NV

Theisey,

This was NCAA and like mcrowder stated, they were most certainly trying to consume time. My question is that by taking the DOG foul and subsequently being penalized, is this considered consuming time illegally?
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thanks

As MC said, 1:45 left, team-A ahead, you're darn right it's illegally consuming time by taking a delay foul.