Free kick situation

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Ball down at the 11. K did not kick the ball out of bounds, R is responsible for the ball being ruled out of bounds.



Peace

If R is out of bounds, by rule this is a KOB.


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[tomes1978]

Originally Posted by Rich

If R is out of bounds, by rule this is a KOB.


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So this brings up my next question regarding this play....rule 6-2-9 states "a free kick should not be kicked out of bounds between the goal line untouched INBOUNDS by R". The ball was never touched inbounds by R...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tomes1978

So this brings up my next question regarding this play....rule 6-2-9 states "a free kick should not be kicked out of bounds between the goal line untouched INBOUNDS by R". The ball was never touched inbounds by R...

I'm with you. This is a kickoff out of bounds (KOB).

[tomes1978]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm with you. This is a kickoff out of bounds (KOB).

So double foul with Illegal Participation? Re-kick?

[Rich]

I'm likely just going with a KOB. He likely intentionally played the ball, but that's not a foul unless he *intentionally went out of bounds*, which is unlikely.

Case play 6.1.9 Situation C, (b).

Redding Example 6-12, page 51.

Unless one is 100% that the player *intentionally went out of bounds*, it's simply a free kick out of bounds and R has its 4 options (and will likely take the ball on the 35 on that side's inbounds spot).

[CT1]

Originally Posted by Rich

If R is out of bounds, by rule this is a KOB.

I really don’t like this. A six-foot tall player lying prone could touch a ball that is at rest two yards from the sideline and cause a foul against K? Many teams angle kick & would love to have their KOs end up there.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by CT1

I really don’t like this. A six-foot tall player lying prone could touch a ball that is at rest two yards from the sideline and cause a foul against K? Many teams angle kick & would love to have their KOs end up there.

It's the rule, suported by definitions and case plays.

If a player lays down and reaches out, I'm enforcing IP. It's in the bag of tools for obvious intentional plays of the ball.

I still wouldn't enforce IP in tomes's play.


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[tomes1978]

Originally Posted by CT1

I really don’t like this. A six-foot tall player lying prone could touch a ball that is at rest two yards from the sideline and cause a foul against K? Many teams angle kick & would love to have their KOs end up there.

Kinda like this?
https://youtu.be/zdw3Xj__eKA

[Jimmie24]

Many years ago, this happened to us in a high school game. We kicked off, ball was bouncing near the sideline. R caught the ball, while standing out of bounds. Penalty was on us, the K team. Needless to say, not a popular call.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jimmie24

Many years ago, this happened to us in a high school game. We kicked off, ball was bouncing near the sideline. R caught the ball, while standing out of bounds. Penalty was on us, the K team. Needless to say, not a popular call.

Not popular, but correct.