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[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

None of them do.

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. It was not intended to save yardage or time.

Robert, it was intended to DEPRIVE the opponent with the opportunity to make a play during the time remaining in the contest, by throwing what was clearly an Illegal pass.

The could have (perhaps should have) elected to take the snap and choose to elude the opponent, on the field of play, until time legitimately expired. Sometimes the "easy answer" can surprise with unanticipated consequences.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Robert, it was intended to DEPRIVE the opponent with the opportunity to make a play during the time remaining in the contest, by throwing what was clearly an Illegal pass.

The could have (perhaps should have) elected to take the snap and choose to elude the opponent, on the field of play, until time legitimately expired. Sometimes the "easy answer" can surprise with unanticipated consequences.

It wasn't an illegal pass. That is irrelevant, it doesn't even matter if it is intentional grounding, the crew still erred and misapplyed a penalty.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Robert, it was intended to DEPRIVE the opponent with the opportunity to make a play during the time remaining in the contest, by throwing what was clearly an Illegal pass.

What made the pass illegal?

The could have (perhaps should have) elected to take the snap and choose to elude the opponent, on the field of play, until time legitimately expired.

Or they could've done the same pass backwards, to exactly the same effect, and then nobody would've even raised illegal forward pass as a possibility.

[JRutledge]

For the record, the U on this game came to our meeting tonight and talked about the situation. I know I learned from his speaking on the matter.

For the record, the crew did not know they made the mistake until they were in the locker room for about 5 minutes. The guy that does the media timeouts apparently relayed to them that Mike Pereira was going off about this in the broadcast and quoting the rule. Then the crew started looking it up in the rulebook for themselves to read what he was referencing.

The bottom line the crew feels awful and this official wanted to make sure we all learned from their mistake. So now this is why you have to be able to step up and take the lead or raise the questions so that the crew does not look bad. One of the 10 might have saved this crew if they just stopped for a second to think about what they were going to do.

Peace

[Texas Aggie]

What made the pass illegal?

In the NCAA rules, intentional grounding IS an illegal forward pass, so the fact that a grounding foul was called made it illegal.

There are different enforcement procedures for different kinds of illegal forward passes, but 7-3-2 talks about illegal forward passes and the intentional grounding rule is in that section.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

In the NCAA rules, intentional grounding IS an illegal forward pass, so the fact that a grounding foul was called made it illegal.

But it didn't satisfy the requirements to call it intentional grounding.

[CT1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

For the record, the U on this game came to our meeting tonight and talked about the situation. I know I learned from his speaking on the matter.

For the record, the crew did not know they made the mistake until they were in the locker room for about 5 minutes. The guy that does the media timeouts apparently relayed to them that Mike Pereira was going off about this in the broadcast and quoting the rule. Then the crew started looking it up in the rulebook for themselves to read what he was referencing.

The bottom line the crew feels awful and this official wanted to make sure we all learned from their mistake. So now this is why you have to be able to step up and take the lead or raise the questions so that the crew does not look bad. One of the 10 might have saved this crew if they just stopped for a second to think about what they were going to do.

Thanks for relaying this, Jeff. It's still hard for me to believe that a crew of D-I officials could get this wrong. If it could happen to them, it could certainly happen to my crew on a Friday night.