Louisiana Officials

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Yes. It is not just 10% for one year that is the problem. They've been mistreated so long that they'd need a 50%-100% increase to catch up with other states.

They should be getting the same raises as those making the decisions on how much they get paid. The ADs/Principles are probably getting 3-5% every year, probably fought for by their teacher's union. For them to not give the officials anything year after year is, at best, hypocritical. They're really only for the benefits of unions and good pay as far as it helps them but for not for anyone else.

They are making $95 per game. That's more than most states so there isn't much catching up.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

They are making $95 per game. That's more than most states so there isn't much catching up.

That's football playoff rate for the highest classification.

Most of what is being discussed here are basketball pay rates, which are quite low compared to most areas.

Regular season football rates are ok, but not outstanding.

[Welpe]

Here are the basketball rates:

8.8.4 Basketball Officials’ Fees as adopted by the LHSAA in all classes:

1. Regular Season - Varsity Game (2 person officiating crew)
Certified Rated Official …………….……....... $45.00 per official, per game
Approved Rated Official ………………......... $37.00 per official, per game
Registered Rated Official ………………....... $35.00 per official, per game

2. Regular Season - Varsity Game (3 person officiating crew)
Certified Rated Official …………….……............. $40.00 per official, per game
Approved Rated Official …………….….............. $32.00 per official, per game
Registered Rated Official ……………................. $30.00 per official, per game

3. Playoff Games - Varsity Game (3 person officiating crew)
Certified Rated Official …………….…........ $65.00 per official, per game
Approved Rated Official ……………........... $58.00 per official, per game
Registered Rated Official ……………......... $52.00 per official, per game

4. The LHSAA shall pay each official $75.00 per game in the Ladies’ Top 28 Tournament and Boys’ Top 28 Tournament, plus travel pay.

Taken from here:

http://lhsaa.org/uploads/handbook/Se...ficiating1.pdf

[Welpe]

And here's football:

8.8.5 Football Officials’ Fees as adopted by LHSAA schools in all classes:
1. Regular Season
Certified Rated Official …………………… $85.00 per official, per game
Approved Rated Official ………………….. ...... $70.00 per official, per game
Registered Rated Official ………………… $60.00 per official, per game
Clock Operator ………………………….… $40.00 per official, per game

2. Playoff Games
Certified Rated Official …………….…….......... $95.00 per official, per game
Approved Rated Official ………………............ $80.00 per official, per game
Registered Rated Official ……………….. $65.00 per official, per game
Clock Operator …………………………... $50.00 per official, per game

3. As adopted in all games, the crew referee’s fee shall be increased by $15.00.

4. Officials working games in the Superdome Classic shall be paid $100.00 per game and clock operators shall be paid $75.00 per game, plus travel pay.

They pay the Referee $15 more per game. That is just comical.

[Texas Aggie]

Regular season football rates are ok, but not outstanding.

The 85/70/60 rate for football would be on the lower end for varsity games in Texas. Most schools above 3A (median classification), except for those in mostly urban districts who's games are not well attended, have pay rates ranging from higher to much higher than that.

This is really one of the problems Texas faces -- effective pay rates for varsity games involving large schools can be quite good (assuming the district pays what they are supposed to). Subvarsity rates, however, are another story. Rates for other sports need to increase. Football officials that work 0-4 subvarsity dates per year don't really care about the fee and may not be willing to risk losing even one Friday night fee to take a stand -- either for football subvarsity or other sports at all levels.

[Welpe]

Agreed. I just moved back from there after 6 years and even the varsity rates were all over the place. Our TAPPS pay for varsity was a flat $85 which was good but our rates working smaller varsity games were all over, and often at the whim of the ADs. We worked more than a few small towns with absolutely packed stadiums and came away with $70 checks (including travel).

The only thing I'm going to really miss about working football in Texas was using NCAA rules. You can keep everything else.

Originally Posted by Welpe

Here are the basketball rates:

8.8.4 Basketball Officials’ Fees as adopted by the LHSAA in all classes:

1. Regular Season - Varsity Game (2 person officiating crew)
Certified Rated Official …………….……....... $45.00 per official, per game
Approved Rated Official ………………......... $37.00 per official, per game
Registered Rated Official ………………....... $35.00 per official, per game

2. Regular Season - Varsity Game (3 person officiating crew)
Certified Rated Official …………….……............. $40.00 per official, per game
Approved Rated Official …………….….............. $32.00 per official, per game
Registered Rated Official ……………................. $30.00 per official, per game

3. Playoff Games - Varsity Game (3 person officiating crew)
Certified Rated Official …………….…........ $65.00 per official, per game
Approved Rated Official ……………........... $58.00 per official, per game
Registered Rated Official ……………......... $52.00 per official, per game

4. The LHSAA shall pay each official $75.00 per game in the Ladies’ Top 28 Tournament and Boys’ Top 28 Tournament, plus travel pay.

Taken from here:

http://lhsaa.org/uploads/handbook/Se...ficiating1.pdf

Those are piss-poor rates.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Those are piss-poor rates.

Last year's Connecticut fees (two person games): Varsity Fee: $93.19, Sub Varsity Fee: $60.45.

[Welpe]

That's to make up for having to live in Connecticut.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Welpe

That's to make up for having to live in Connecticut.

True. Very high cost of living, but it's worth it, Connecticut is a great state. Four beautiful seasons. Mountains. Forests. Beaches. Museums. Music. Art. Great hospitals. Great public schools. Great colleges. Easy access to New York City, and Boston. If you like lots of people (urban, suburban), live in the central, or southern, part of the state. If you like peace, and quiet (rural), live in one of the two "quiet corners" (northwest, northeast).

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Last year's Connecticut fees (two person games): Varsity Fee: $93.19, Sub Varsity Fee: $60.45.

Billy, doesn't Conn. have a setup where a percentage of that goes to the assignor, or is $93.19 actually what you net?

For the purposes of this thread and continuing to put the staggeringly low La. rates in perspective, it's $78 2-man varsity, $66.30 3-man, $56 subvarsity (including middle school) in Massachusetts.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ODog

Billy, doesn't Conn. have a setup where a percentage of that goes to the assignor, or is $93.19 actually what you net?

Local ("little corner ...") board (not the assignment commissioner) gets a 7% assignment fee (on top of annual dues of $125.00).

Local assignment commissioner earns an annual salary of $29,925.00. Local assistant assignment commissioner earns an annual salary of $2,000.00. Both salaries are paid by the local board as two line items in our annual budget.

[bballref3966]

Angry LHSAA chief blasts officials association | News | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana

Statement from Bonine is one of the most ludicrous things I have ever heard.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by bballref3966

Angry LHSAA chief blasts officials association | News | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana

Statement from Bonine is one of the most ludicrous things I have ever heard.

Undeniable Fact of Life: Whenever an elected official or bureaucrat says "It's about the kids", 100% of the time, it's not.

[SC Official]

I think the LHSAA should recruit volunteer fanboys to officiate.

In all seriousness, maybe the best thing that can happen is for this to cut into the regular season. The LHSAA will learn pretty quickly how important the officials are.

The appeal to pathos brought a chuckle from me.