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Old Thu May 28, 2015, 09:48pm
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This is a career (16 years) first:

I show up to ref a pair of college summer league games, and in walk three other officials...including the man who assigns the league. He tells me, 'you know you're not supposed to be here.' I show him his email to me, he apologizes after realizing he messed up, tells me 'he'll take care of me later this summer,' and proceeds to work the games.

It's only 2 games, it's just $40, and I live close by, but it just felt lousy. Would any of you pushed back? I'm new to the area and certainly don't want to burn any bridges.
The fact that he worked instead of you tells me all I need to know about this guy.

What else does he assign basketball-wise in the area?
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Old Fri May 29, 2015, 01:41am
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The fact that he worked instead of you tells me all I need to know about this guy.
Yup.
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Old Fri May 29, 2015, 09:47am
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The fact that he worked instead of you tells me all I need to know about this guy.

What else does he assign basketball-wise in the area?

BNR:

I agree with you 100%. As the assigner he should have honored his email and gone home.

I don't know the assigner can take care of him later in the season because any games he assigns to Matt S. would have been assigned to him anyway. I hope everybody understands my reasoning. The fact that Matt S. has a copy of the email means the email is a contract and Matt S. could force the issue about being paid for the games no matter how many more games the assigner gives him the rest of the Summer.

Furthermore, if the assigner was contracted, then email could be interpreted as a contract between Matt S. and the league could press the issue with the league to be paid by the league.

Either way the assigner is a real piece of work.

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Old Fri May 29, 2015, 09:56am
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Chalk it up to the "game." There are always people that do not have the right values or the same values others have. I would just make a mental note of this, go home and the next time this guy wanted my help, I would not be as available to that assignor. Now unless that person is a major assignor or your main assignor that might be another issue, but around here I would be "on to the next."

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Old Fri May 29, 2015, 02:08pm
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The fact that he worked instead of you tells me all I need to know about this guy.
This. If this is his response to one of his mistakes for a meaningless summer game, imagine how well he'd look out for you with a real serious game or issue on the line. A real crap move on his part... avoid him if ya can in the future. If you can't avoid him, file it away for future use if he ever needs a favor or help out of a jam.
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Old Fri May 29, 2015, 02:12pm
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The fact that he worked instead of you tells me all I need to know about this guy.
Agreed. I think it would have been classier to own up and bow out.
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Old Fri May 29, 2015, 07:00pm
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The fact that he worked instead of you tells me all I need to know about this guy.
Absolutely. He should've done the right thing and rectified his screw up by taking himself off of the game.
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Old Fri May 29, 2015, 11:27pm
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the only summer games I work are camp or games assigned by an actual coordinator
This, plus they have to almost threaten me before I work them.

But I'm pretty content and not trying to get evaluator gigs at these camps like many guys.
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