Where are the NFHS rule changes?

[luvhoops]

https://www.nfhs.org/sports-resource...anges-2015-16/

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by luvhoops

https://www.nfhs.org/sports-resource...anges-2015-16/

After I clicked on this link, I looked around the site and found a link to some old films from the 1930s that showed games from the Illinois state tournament. In the clip from 1933, it showed the Thornton HS team (Harvey, Illinois) playing for the state championship. They won, 14-13. One of the players shown on the Thornton team was sophomore Lou Boudreaux, who later became an MLB star, manager and radio announcer. Lou went to HS with my step-father and they were really good friends. I met Lou a few times.

The court shown had no center court line, had free throw lanes only six feet apart and those lanes with the circle on top looked like a keyhole, which is where the phrase "the key" came from (according to the movie). They also center jumped after every basket.

Oh yeah, the refs were wearing black and white striped shirts with light colored tan pants.

[Stat-Man]

https://www.nfhs.org/sports-resource...anges-2015-16/

I see we also have some editorial changes related to fashion police rules.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

I see we also have some editorial changes related to fashion police rules.

It so much better now, headbands, wristbands, sleeves and tights have to match and must be white, beige, black or predominant color of jersey, and the same for all team members.

[BillyMac]

I'm underwhelmed.

NFHS Basketball Rules Changes - 2015-16

10-6-12: The following acts constitute a foul when committed against a ball handler/dribbler. A player becomes a ball handler when he/she receives the ball. This would include a player in a post position.
a. Placing two hands on the player.
b. Placing an extended arm bar on the player.
c. Placing and keeping a hand on the player.
d. Contacting the player more than once with the same hand or alternating hands.

Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.

2015-16 Major Editorial Changes

3-4-2c: By state association adoption one commemorative/memorial patch may be worn on the jersey. The patch shall not exceed 4 square inches, shall not be a number and must be located above the neckline or in the side insert.

3-5-3c: All sleeves/tights shall be the same solid color and must be the same color as any headband or wristband worn.

3-5-4a: Headbands and wristbands shall be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and the same color for each item and all participants. They must be the same color as any sleeve/tights worn. See 3-6 for logo requirements.

2015-16 POINTS OF EMPHASIS
1.Post Play
2.Rebounding
3.Free Throw Shooter
4.NFHS Signals and Mechanics

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

[B]

3-4-2c: By state association adoption one commemorative/memorial patch may be worn on the jersey. The patch shall not exceed 4 square inches, shall not be a number and must be located above the neckline or in the side insert.

3-5-3c: All sleeves/tights shall be the same solid color and must be the same color as any headband or wristband worn.

3-5-4a: Headbands and wristbands shall be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and the same color for each item and all participants. They must be the same color as any sleeve/tights worn. See 3-6 for logo requirements.

Maybe it's just me but...aren't these rule changes as opposed to editorial changes? Editorial, to me, means the rule is rewritten to add some clarity or correct a typo from the previous rule book. What I'm seeing here is a change in the rules themselves.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Maybe it's just me but...aren't these rule changes as opposed to editorial changes? Editorial, to me, means the rule is rewritten to add some clarity or correct a typo from the previous rule book. What I'm seeing here is a change in the rules themselves.

Yes, of course they are, but as has been pointed out on this forum many times, the NFHS doesn't operate in a competent or logical manner.

In fact, the labeling of the rules and editorial changes are actually reversed in the NFHS announcement this year. Imagine that!

[Altor]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Maybe it's just me but...aren't these rule changes as opposed to editorial changes? Editorial, to me, means the rule is rewritten to add some clarity or correct a typo from the previous rule book. What I'm seeing here is a change in the rules themselves.

Usually it means:

"This is what we meant it to be last year when we changed it, but the person we assigned to write the new rule didn't understand that. So, now we're 'editting' it to make it what we really intended for it to be all along. (At least, that's what were telling you now because you don't know any better and we don't feel like admitting that we made a mistake in the first place.)"

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

3-5-3c: All sleeves/tights shall be the same solid color and must be the same color as any headband or wristband worn.

3-5-4a: Headbands and wristbands shall be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey and the same color for each item and all participants. They must be the same color as any sleeve/tights worn. See 3-6 for logo requirements.

Did they somehow make this WORSE? A reasonable team member/coach/parent could read this and conclude sleeves/tights no longer need to be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey UNLESS team members are wearing headbands/wristbands.

If you're not wearing bands (and I'd say most people don't), every color under the rainbow seems in play for sleeves/tights.

Am I missing something?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ODog

If you're not wearing bands (and I'd say most people don't), every color under the rainbow seems in play for sleeves/tights. Am I missing something?

Maybe a casebook-like interpretation will make this clearer?

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by ODog

Did they somehow make this WORSE? A reasonable team member/coach/parent could read this and conclude sleeves/tights no longer need to be black, white, beige or the predominant color of the jersey UNLESS team members are wearing headbands/wristbands.

If you're not wearing bands (and I'd say most people don't), every color under the rainbow seems in play for sleeves/tights.

Am I missing something?

Yes you are. It's really simple. The sleeves and tights must match the headbands and wristbands. Since wrist and head bands must be black, white, beige or uniform color, the same goes for the sleeves and tights. They all have to be the same color if worn. It isn't that hard.

[ltllng]

Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.


So which one is it, baseline or end line?

Absolutely amazing that know one actually cares to edit a paragraph and use the correct terms.

No wonder there are so many different interpretations of the rules!!!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ltllng

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So which one is it, baseline or end line?

Absolutely amazing that know one actually cares to edit a paragraph and use the correct terms.

No wonder there are so many different interpretations of the rules!!!

I know one who finds this post ironic.

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by ltllng

Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.


So which one is it, baseline or end line?

Absolutely amazing that know one actually cares to edit a paragraph and use the correct terms.

No wonder there are so many different interpretations of the rules!!!

My 2nd camp ever ( 1989 ) I believe....Dallas Shirley jumped all over a bunch of us for using the term "baseline ".....from that point on I have always said end line... For you guys west of the Appalachian Mountains, there was no other like J. Dallas Shirley....considering he is in the HOF in Springfield it is END LINE. Case closed !!!!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by OKREF

It so much better now, headbands, wristbands, sleeves and tights have to match and must be white, beige, black or predominant color of jersey, and the same for all team members.

We unilaterally decided to do this in Connecticut last season. We thought that a rule (sleeves, headbands, wristbands - all the same color) would be easier for players, coaches, and officials, to understand than last season's NFHS rule that would allow a headband to be a different color than an arm sleeve.

It wasn't easier to understand.

And it wasn't just the coaches, and players, that misunderstood the rule.

I guess that, in Connecticut, we're way ahead of our time, except in not assigning three officials to a game, and allowing officials to wear black belts. On second thought, never mind.