Should the travel rule be overhauled/rewritten?

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I hate when an official cas the travel and people on here say I can only see it in slow motion so it wasn't a good call.

This is part of why I'm frustrated. Maybe I'm unique in that I'm able to see this particular aspect of the game better than most.

But when I make these calls in games, I get a lot of grief from coaches, mostly because so few officials call it this way.

I think the game may even be better served by ruling these kind of moves as legal, in the rulebook.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

This is part of why I'm frustrated. Maybe I'm unique in that I'm able to see this particular aspect of the game better than most.

But when I make these calls in games, I get a lot of grief from coaches, mostly because so few officials call it this way.

I think the game may even be better served by ruling these kind of moves as legal, in the rulebook.

I'll say this, and it may seem to be a contradiction of what I wrote earlier.

If you find you're literally the only official in your area making the call, you might want to consider adjusting your filters.

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'll say this, and it may seem to be a contradiction of what I wrote earlier.

If you find you're literally the only official in your area making the call, you might want to consider adjusting your filters.

I'm inclined to agree, unfortunately.

I see posts like this, from relatively important sources, and get even more frustrated because they go nearly ignored at every level.

GET THE SPIN TRAVEL | Dave Hall Officiating

[Adam]

Originally Posted by MechanicGuy

I'm inclined to agree, unfortunately.

I see posts like this, from relatively important sources, and get even more frustrated because they go nearly ignored at every level.

GET THE SPIN TRAVEL | Dave Hall Officiating

I can say that my area wants us getting the spin travel. It's funny when I get it in a freshman game and some yahoo from the stands starts telling me that's a middle school call. All I can think is, "it it was, your kid would have stopped doing it last year."

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by Adam

I can say that my area wants us getting the spin travel. It's funny when I get it in a freshman game and some yahoo from the stands starts telling me that's a middle school call. All I can think is, "it it was, your kid would have stopped doing it last year."

As I move up in my area, I hope to influence others to call it as well. I honestly think it's simply a matter of pointing out what the player's feet are doing during the move.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

If one takes the time to read the Traveling Rule for NFHS, NCAA Men's and Women's, FIBA, and NBA/WNBA and wade through the language of each rules set, one will see that the traveling rule is the same in each rule set. That said, there is really nothing wrong with the Traveling Rule as written in any of the rules set. I will say that the NFHS/NCAA language is clearer and easier to read than the FIBA and NBA/WNBA rules sets. The "progressing" wording is mind numbing.

MTD, Sr.

[Pantherdreams]

This is a huge issue with me for a bunch of reasons but I'll be brief and stay to the OP.

Point 1: I don't think that the biggest culprits for travels that get missed are on finish moves I think the biggest culprit is on travels. No way ball is out of contact with the hand before pivot foot is lifted on a huge number takeoffs.

Point 2: I think a lot of travels get missed because of the physicality of the game and needing to officiate the defense. Difficult to watch the feet, hand and ball of the offense simultaneously if watching the feet of the defense and checking for arm contacts.

Point 3: Not just on this forum but in general becoming increasing frustrated by the idea if I have to see it on tape I'm not calling it. I get that if you miss one once in a while and need super slow mo and motion dectors to get a call then you have to let that go in real time. But if you can watch something on tape and slow mo or not see that you are missing the same or a similar call consistently the official involed IME needs to change their threshold for what they are seing or learn to look at something else on that play to get a call right. Saying its too close if its happening all the time means its not really that close . ..

[APG]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

If one takes the time to read the Traveling Rule for NFHS, NCAA Men's and Women's, FIBA, and NBA/WNBA and wade through the language of each rules set, one will see that the traveling rule is the same in each rule set. That said, there is really nothing wrong with the Traveling Rule as written in any of the rules set. I will say that the NFHS/NCAA language is clearer and easier to read than the FIBA and NBA/WNBA rules sets. The "progressing" wording is mind numbing.

MTD, Sr.

This is not true in all aspects with regard the travel rule in the NBA/WNBA versus NFHS and NCAA.

For instance, the spin move referenced in the thread earlier...completely legal under the pro rule sets.