Geno Likes A High School Shot Clock ...

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Everybody is selling something.

Lack of a shot clock below the NBA level didn't stem the basketball IQs Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Bill Walton, etc. LBJ, KD, CP3 seemed to develop pretty well without shot clocks in high school.

The problem is a lack of fundamentals being coached to young ball players.

Not sure if you read the article before responding but I'm not sure what selling has to do with anything.

If you want more fundamentals being taught I would think needing more players who can make plays vs RUN plays would be a positive the shot clock could bring.

Oh and just to be difficult: KD played in Maryland where they had a shot clock.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

Not sure if you read the article before responding but I'm not sure what selling has to do with anything.

If you want more fundamentals being taught I would think needing more players who can make plays vs RUN plays would be a positive the shot clock could bring.

Oh and just to be difficult: KD played in Maryland where they had a shot clock.

KD played HS basketball a lot of places...LOL

And I'm quite sure Sefu is selling us something, I just don't know what yet.

[Bad Zebra]

The bottom line is this...A shot clock is a significant fundamental change to the high school game. It would have a significant financial impact to all high schools across the country (equipment) and a significant impact on the officiating, in terms of additional rules knowledge and play-calling skills required to administer correctly.

Other than Geno (whom I'm a big fan of), I haven't heard a lot from college coaches bemoaning the fact that HS players are unprepared for the challenge of a shot clock.

I really don't see this changing any time soon.

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

The bottom line is this...A shot clock is a significant fundamental change to the high school game. It would have a significant financial impact to all high schools across the country (equipment) and a significant impact on the officiating, in terms of additional rules knowledge and play-calling skills required to administer correctly.

Other than Geno (whom I'm a big fan of), I haven't heard a lot from college coaches bemoaning the fact that HS players are unprepared for the challenge of a shot clock.

I really don't see this changing any time soon.

My state utilizes the shot clock for HS. Girls were first and boys followed a few years later. Our local AAU organization also utilizes the shot clock down to the 7th and 8th grade levels.

I never heard of even the smallest and most rural high schools eliminating any sport programs due to the implementation costs. In addition, our first/second/third year officials do the majority of the 7th/8th grade AAU games and are handling the officiating duties quite well, including shot clock administration. Now getting table personnel to properly manage the shot clock can be a different story!

I understand the thought of adding a shot clock may seem overwhelming in many different aspects, but I'm not sure realistically if those concerns would truly pan out to have the impacts you are imagining.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

My state utilizes the shot clock for HS. Girls were first and boys followed a few years later. Our local AAU organization also utilizes the shot clock down to the 7th and 8th grade levels.

I never heard of even the smallest and most rural high schools eliminating any sport programs due to the implementation costs. In addition, our first/second/third year officials do the majority of the 7th/8th grade AAU games and are handling the officiating duties quite well, including shot clock administration. Now getting table personnel to properly manage the shot clock can be a different story!

I understand the thought of adding a shot clock may seem overwhelming in many different aspects, but I'm not sure realistically if those concerns would truly pan out to have the impacts you are imagining.

It really comes down to the fact that there's no problem in HS basketball that would be solved by a shot clock.

And regarding the cost: school funds are finite, money spent on a shot clock would have been spent elsewhere.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

And regarding the cost: school funds are finite, money spent on a shot clock would have been spent elsewhere.

Delay the replacement of uniforms for one season and you've got yourself a shot clock.

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Paying someone to run it over a period of twenty games each season? That's another story.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Delay the replacement of uniforms for one season and you've got yourself a shot clock.

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Paying someone to run it over a period of twenty games each season? That's another story.

Someone competent to run it. I have run into enough problems in my college games.

And partners who will know WTF the rules are in regards to the shot clock at the HS level.

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by Adam

It really comes down to the fact that there's no problem in HS basketball that would be solved by a shot clock.

And regarding the cost: school funds are finite, money spent on a shot clock would have been spent elsewhere.

I wonder what the average cost was to lay down 3 point lines and what problem existed so that it had to be implemented? I'm guessing there wasn't much resistance to that particular change.

Point is, as past has shown, sometimes things are implemented regardless.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

I wonder what the average cost was to lay down 3 point lines and what problem existed so that it had to be implemented? I'm guessing there wasn't much resistance to that particular change.

Point is, as past has shown, sometimes things are implemented regardless.

I am sure a 3 point line was a lot easier to add than a shot clock. And a shot clock that works properly and is easy to use.

Again, I would never cost is the only issue. I just think that it takes another level of game awareness to use that device and to catch mistakes. As stated, I see enough mistakes at the lower level college level. And the good teams that I see, do not often need a shot clock anyway. What I think we might see is more forced shots or bad shots because there is a shot clock. I still see scores in the 30s in many cases because not all high school teams can shoot.

Peace

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

I wonder what the average cost was to lay down 3 point lines and what problem existed so that it had to be implemented? I'm guessing there wasn't much resistance to that particular change.

How much does it cost to pay a three point line operator and how often do the lines need to be maintained?