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Old Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:43am
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It probably does make the game more enjoyable to watch. But, how much is "enjoyment to watch" one of the goals of HS basketball? That's what the question comes down to (plus, money and training, of course).
I don't think "enjoyment to watch" is the only benefit. Granted finances, training, are things that need to be overcome but the shot clock does more for high school athletes then just making a more enjoyable game.

- Increases player autonomy. Makes the game more player driven someone is going to have to make a shot, play, create more times per game.
- More possessions require more players to play.
- More possessions need to end when you get a good shot vs working until you get the perfect shot for the best player. Need for kids to be better shooters and take/make more shots.
- Increased number of skilled players since more players need to play more and need to be able to create or make plays.

More players playing with greater need to train and develop more universally skilled players.

Now these aren't officiating concerns as much as state of the game concerns. From a strictly officiating stand point adding a shot clock just adds a layer of rules and management.
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Old Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:12pm
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Of course a college coach wants this because it will directly benefit him and his program. What's good for him isn't necessarily what's good for high school basketball and its participants (the vast majority of which will never play in college).
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Old Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:19am
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It's definitely an interesting debate-statistics report that the difference between scoring in states with the shot clock and states without is negligible (at least according to an analysis from MaxPreps.com sometime last year). Those who cite the need to prepare kids for college have a legit argument,but if that's the argument then shouldn't all travel ball tournaments be using the shot clock? Since after all that's where a vast majority of the recruiting occurs.
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Old Wed Mar 25, 2015, 11:26am
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It's definitely an interesting debate-statistics report that the difference between scoring in states with the shot clock and states without is negligible (at least according to an analysis from MaxPreps.com sometime last year). Those who cite the need to prepare kids for college have a legit argument,but if that's the argument then shouldn't all travel ball tournaments be using the shot clock? Since after all that's where a vast majority of the recruiting occurs.
Are you kidding? That would interfere with the profit margin.
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Old Wed Mar 25, 2015, 01:15pm
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It's definitely an interesting debate-statistics report that the difference between scoring in states with the shot clock and states without is negligible (at least according to an analysis from MaxPreps.com sometime last year). Those who cite the need to prepare kids for college have a legit argument,but if that's the argument then shouldn't all travel ball tournaments be using the shot clock? Since after all that's where a vast majority of the recruiting occurs.
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Are you kidding? That would interfere with the profit margin.
All the upper level girls' AAU tournaments here use a shot clock, as does the boys' Nike Elite League that comes through town. Shot clock violations are never an issue; these kids seem to adapt rather easily.
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- Increases player autonomy. Makes the game more player driven someone is going to have to make a shot, play, create more times per game.
- More possessions need to end when you get a good shot vs working until you get the perfect shot for the best player. Need for kids to be better shooters and take/make more shots.
- Increased number of skilled players since more players need to play more and need to be able to create or make plays.
More players playing with greater need to train and develop more universally skilled players.
Are we really allowing Geno Auriemma to post on the Forum using Pantherdreams' user name? Does Geno really need another soapbox?
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