UCLA vs. SMU (Video)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by hbk314

And this is where you lose credibility. Dismissing people as merely "fans," like that somehow makes someone an idiot. I'm reading the text of the rule posted in this thread and I don't believe the conditions were met. It's as simple as that.

You are a FAN. And you are complaining that an NCAA tournament official, plus the officials in here, do not know how to read and interpret the rule book.

Why are you asking about a rule/play if all you are going to do is continue complaining when you don't get the answers you like?

Don't act like you just popped up and I'm dismissing you. Your track record is documented on Brad's server, especially on the football side.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You are a FAN. And you are complaining that an NCAA tournament official, plus the officials in here, do not know how to read and interpret the rule book.

I never said any such thing. I've said that the "could hit the rim" interpretation and the words "could possibly go in" don't always overlap perfectly. In my opinion the rule as written doesn't support the call. The interpretation you've stated does, but I feel like this particular play is in the middle ground where both statements don't apply.

I actually don't think hbk314 would be a terrible official, he would just struggle with calling things by the rules instead of what he thinks is right.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by hbk314

I never said any such thing. I've said that the "could hit the rim" interpretation and the words "could possibly go in" don't always overlap perfectly. In my opinion the rule as written doesn't support the call. The interpretation you've stated does, but I feel like this particular play is in the middle ground where both statements don't apply.

Actually, it does support it. You can't 100% conclude that it can't go it by the observation that is available to the officials therefore it had possibility of going in. You're just wrong.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Actually, it does support it. You can't 100% conclude that it can't go it by the observation that is available to the officials therefore it had possibility of going in. You're just wrong.

It's a matter of opinion.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by hbk314

It's a matter of opinion.

Hmm. On one side we have a lone voice of a non-referee crying in the wilderness, and on the other side we have a gazillion years of refereeing experience. Darn, I just don't know who to believe.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Hmm. On one side we have a lone voice of a non-referee crying in the wilderness, and on the other side we have a gazillion years of refereeing experience. Darn, I just don't know who to believe.

Fans and announcers think their opinions counts JUST AS MUCH.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by hbk314

It's a matter of opinion.

Funny how many people tend to lean on "opinion" when the facts just don't support their argument. Guess that's why opinions are like ___holes, and facts are facts. I'm also glad that adjudication of rules are left to opinions. Your team lost. They lost last year, and the year before. They will probably lost next year and the year after that. In fact they will lose in the tournament more often than they win.

You can keep blaming it on the officiating.

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by deecee

Funny how many people tend to lean on "opinion" when the facts just don't support their argument. Guess that's why opinions are like ___holes, and facts are facts. I'm also glad that adjudication of rules are left to opinions. Your team lost. They lost last year, and the year before. They will probably lost next year and the year after that. In fact they will lose in the tournament more often than they win.

You can keep blaming it on the officiating.

I don't care who wins most games in the tournament. I'd just like to see games decided by the players on the floor and not have terrible plays bailed out unnecessarily.

If play continues, UCLA likely ties it and SMU has last shot.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by hbk314

I don't care who wins most games in the tournament. I'd just like to see games decided by the players on the floor and not have terrible plays bailed out unnecessarily.

If play continues, UCLA likely ties it and SMU has last shot.

This game was decided by the player that jumped up and touched a ball heading towards the basket. The officials just told everyone what he did.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by hbk314

It's a matter of opinion.

So, if it's a matter of opinion what is the purpose of your argument? Are you trying to convince others to change their minds?