Exactly when does ball become dead?

[letemplay]

My point of question exactly. Can an airborne passer commit a PC foul?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by letemplay

My point of question exactly. Can an airborne passer commit a PC foul?

Not a PC foul, but a TC foul, which is treated exactly the same unless a shot is already in flight. A TC foul doesn't make an in-flight try dead where PC foul does.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not a PC foul, but a TC foul, which is treated exactly the same unless a shot is already in flight. A TC foul doesn't make an in-flight try dead where PC foul does.

I'm sure you know this and mistyped etc...If a try is in-flight there is no TC. If the passer A1 fouls/runs over B1, after A2 has released the ball on a try, the foul is not a TC foul. Basket counts if good..if B is in bonus go down to other end and shoot. thx

[letemplay]

IMO, the whole thing boils down to judgment (imagine) as to whether the shot was in motion at time of foul. In a case of "had to be there" for you guys, I was, and don't see how it was realistically possible for A2 to wait for the pass to arrive, catch/control, and go into a shooting motion, in the time between the release of the pass by airborne A1 and A1's immediate contact with B1.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by letemplay

IMO, the whole thing boils down to judgment (imagine) as to whether the shot was in motion at time of foul. In a case of "had to be there" for you guys, I was, and don't see how it was realistically possible for A2 to wait for the pass to arrive, catch/control, and go into a shooting motion, in the time between the release of the pass by airborne A1 and A1's immediate contact with B1.

I agree it is improbable, we're just covering the possibilities.

[johnny d]

The ball becomes dead when a doctor or coroner pronounces it dead.

[letemplay]

Yes, I certainly see where it could be possible, however unlikely on this particular play.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I'm sure you know this and mistyped etc...If a try is in-flight there is no TC. If the passer A1 fouls/runs over B1, after A2 has released the ball on a try, the foul is not a TC foul. Basket counts if good..if B is in bonus go down to other end and shoot. thx

Correct. Typing faster that I should. Was thinking of the OP where the passer dumped the ball to a shooter who had released the shot then committed a foul after the shot was released. That is indeed not a TC foul.

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by letemplay

My point of question exactly. Can an airborne passer commit a PC foul?

No, but he can commit a team control foul, which would cause the ball to become dead immediately.