Use your mulligan?

Jesse James · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 21, 2015, 07:49pm

Boys varsity game last night--insert the didn't care who won disclaimer--tied after regulation. Jump ball to start overtime is tossed really poorly, way off center toward H jumper. I'm not certain V could have gotten a hand on it had he been in the circle by himself. U's really had no reason to blow it dead, as they had no angle, and no one violated. So it was a play on.

My question is, if you're the R, and you know it's a lousy toss to start ot--do you kill the play (and possession) with a late whistle (as it's not in your mouth on the toss) and reset clock and re-jump? Or play on?

There was no question how bad the toss was. V coach certainly addressed it immediately, and he and R discussed it (civilly) between the first and second ot. Toss to start second ot was bad also, but not as egregious. To start ot 3, R opted to sub out and let U1 do the honors. Good move.

Mark Padgett · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 21, 2015, 07:58pm

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Originally Posted by Jesse James

To start ot 3...

Are you trying to kill me?

BryanV21 · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:49pm

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Originally Posted by Jesse James

Boys varsity game last night--insert the didn't care who won disclaimer--tied after regulation. Jump ball to start overtime is tossed really poorly, way off center toward H jumper. I'm not certain V could have gotten a hand on it had he been in the circle by himself. U's really had no reason to blow it dead, as they had no angle, and no one violated. So it was a play on.

My question is, if you're the R, and you know it's a lousy toss to start ot--do you kill the play (and possession) with a late whistle (as it's not in your mouth on the toss) and reset clock and re-jump? Or play on?

There was no question how bad the toss was. V coach certainly addressed it immediately, and he and R discussed it (civilly) between the first and second ot. Toss to start second ot was bad also, but not as egregious. To start ot 3, R opted to sub out and let U1 do the honors. Good move.

I'm confused... why did the U1 (the one responsible for watching the tossed ball) not have a good enough angle on a jump ball?

If I had definite knowledge that the toss was bad, and my partners did nothing, then I'd blow it back.

Jesse James · #4 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:41pm

He may have been a little deep cheating toward the endline, but I'd have to see it again to say for certain.

It's not a bad vantage point to see a stolen tip--but not the greatest for blowing back a lopsided toss.

Thumper68 · #5 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 21, 2015, 11:13pm

I have certainly blow back my own bad toss. I would do it again in a heart beat.

johnny d · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:38am

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Originally Posted by Thumper68

I have certainly blow back my own bad toss. I would do it again in a heart beat.

I do not have the ability to call back my own toss if it is bad, I remove my whistle from my mouth before I toss the ball.

Rich · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:53am

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Originally Posted by johnny d

I do not have the ability to call back my own toss if it is bad, I remove my whistle from my mouth before I toss the ball.

And it would take such effort to put whistle back in mouth and blow.

bballref3966 · #8 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:56am

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Originally Posted by johnny d

I do not have the ability to call back my own toss if it is bad, I remove my whistle from my mouth before I toss the ball.

So does (hopefully) every official.

Nevadaref · #9 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 21, 2015, 11:40pm

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Originally Posted by Jesse James

Toss to start second ot was bad also, but not as egregious. To start ot 3, R opted to sub out and let U1 do the honors. Good move.

I agree with going to the bullpen to bring in the lefty!

crosscountry55 · #10 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:53am

A few years ago I worked on a toss where I just popped the ball up starting at my eye level. I simply could not perfect it. So I shifted to a hesitation toss where I dribble between the jumpers 1-3 times and then lift the toss starting at waist level. It's a lot more consistent, but probably not as safe from an injury prevention standpoint.

I digress. Despite my more consistent toss, I was working some youth games last weekend where I could not throw the ball within +/- 10° of vertical to save my life. It was all over the place. So my sympathies to the R in the OP; there are days like those.

Rich · #11 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:28am

I threw a bad one up last week. Neither partner blew it back. I should've, probably, but didn't.

I told the offended coach he'd get the next 2 out of 3.

(No, I didn't do this. We did have a laugh over it, though.)

First one I would've liked back in a few years. It happens.