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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:38am
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I have certainly blow back my own bad toss. I would do it again in a heart beat.
I do not have the ability to call back my own toss if it is bad, I remove my whistle from my mouth before I toss the ball.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:53am
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I do not have the ability to call back my own toss if it is bad, I remove my whistle from my mouth before I toss the ball.
And it would take such effort to put whistle back in mouth and blow.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:11am
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And it would take such effort to put whistle back in mouth and blow.
It does, and by the time I done so, we are not stopping the game and starting over. Either one of my partners are going to call the toss back, or we are playing on.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:16am
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It does, and by the time I done so, we are not stopping the game and starting over. Either one of my partners are going to call the toss back, or we are playing on.
I get this -- it's the main reason why I didn't blow mine back.

I could've, but it was good enough for U1/U2 and the ball was already in the front court in the possession of a team, and it's just not that big of a deal.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:21am
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Just flip a damn coin, or give the ball to the visitors.

(I can't wait until Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wakes up from his pre-lunch nap, and reads this.)
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Old Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:16pm
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Just flip a damn coin, or give the ball to the visitors.

(I can't wait until Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. wakes up from his pre-lunch nap, and reads this.)
Yuck. Would it change the game? Not really. But it is, in my view, a nice traditional piece. (Of course, I think we should abolish the playground rule otherwise known as the AParrow . . . .) At the start of the game, I agree it really doesn't matter. In OT -- especially at younger levels with shorter OTs -- that tip can matter an awful lot and I'd really hate to see that go to a coin flip.

(And perhaps I'm also biased at the moment because my son is an effective jumper on jump balls, and an effective jump ball play has led to layups in about half their games.)
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Old Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:02pm
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Yuck. Would it change the game? Not really. But it is, in my view, a nice traditional piece. (Of course, I think we should abolish the playground rule otherwise known as the AParrow . . . .) At the start of the game, I agree it really doesn't matter. In OT -- especially at younger levels with shorter OTs -- that tip can matter an awful lot and I'd really hate to see that go to a coin flip.

(And perhaps I'm also biased at the moment because my son is an effective jumper on jump balls, and an effective jump ball play has led to layups in about half their games.)
So 80% of the time the ball goes to the team with the tallest center. Idiotic way to start a game.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:56am
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I do not have the ability to call back my own toss if it is bad, I remove my whistle from my mouth before I toss the ball.
So does (hopefully) every official.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:13am
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So does (hopefully) every official.

Every season I see more of my partners than I would expect not do so.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:30am
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Every season I see more of my partners than I would expect not do so.
I've seen rookies do it, and always bring it up to them later.

Never seen anyone beyond his rookie year forget. Kinda like the back pedal.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:46am
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Never seen anyone beyond his rookie year forget.
Not necessarily after a jump ball, but I'd be lying to everybody if I said that I've never once forgotten to put a whistle in my mouth over the past thirty-four years.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 12:26pm
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Not necessarily after a jump ball, but I'd be lying to everybody if I said that I've never once forgotten to put a whistle in my mouth over the past thirty-four years.
Read the posts again, Billy.

Test question for you:
We're talking about officials who a) forget to put the whistle back in their mouth. or b) officials who don't take the whistle out of their mouth prior to administering a jump ball.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 01:09pm
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I've seen the tossing official blow back a toss...or even get an obvious violation on a jump ball...several seconds after the fact.

I would say if it's egregious enough...I'm talking real egregious, then I get it. But 98/100 times, live with what the U1 and/or U2 have ruled.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 02:01pm
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We're talking about officials who forget to put the whistle back in their mouth ...
Bingo.

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I'd be lying to everybody if I said that I've never once forgotten to put a whistle in my mouth over the past thirty-four years.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:13am
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So does (hopefully) every official.
Not me. It's the best part of being the referee tosser. I let the umpire make all the calls for the rest of the first period. I also let the umpire (two person Connecticut) run from lead to lead while I stand back at the trail for the entire game. Switches? We ain't got no switches. We don't need no switches. I don't have to show you any stinkin' switches (with apologies to Gold Hat).
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