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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 08:29am
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If you mean you saw 5.3 at the start of your count you put .3 on the clock and give the ball to Team B. If you mean you saw the 5.3 and some point during the count, do the math and put up the appropriate number.
We put 0.3 on the clock and gave the ball to Team B.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 08:37am
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We put 0.3 on the clock and gave the ball to Team B.
And then they tapped in a three-pointer to tie it up, right?
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:10am
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:01pm
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5.10.1e
5.10.1 SITUATION E: Team A scores a goal to lead by four points with 10 seconds
remaining in the fourth quarter. Team B then quickly scores with approximately
five seconds remaining; now trailing by two points. Team A expects to
withhold the ball out of bounds for the throw-in with the time remaining (less
than five seconds). The timer mistakenly stops the clock shortly following the
Team B goal; the game clock reads 4.0 seconds remaining. The official sounds
the whistle, (a) immediately to address the timing mistake; (b) after reaching a
throw-in count of three to address the timing mistake; or (c) upon reaching a fivesecond
throw-in count on Team A. RULING: In (a) and (b), Team A will have a
throw-in from anywhere along the end line with (a) no change to the game clock;
and (b) the game clock corrected to display 1.0 seconds. In (c), the game is over
as time has expired. COMMENT: An official’s count may be used to correct a timing
mistake. (5-10-2)
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 09:32pm
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The timer mistakenly stops the clock shortly following the Team B goal; the game clock reads 4.0 seconds remaining. The official sounds the whistle, (a) immediately to address the timing mistake;
So would this be a mistake on the official's part? Say the home team scores with 8 seconds left and they trail by 1 with no timeouts left. The home team scorer (innocently) stops the clock anticipating a timeout, or (not so innocently) stops it just to stop it.

A good official's gonna look at the clock once the ball goes through. But if he sees it FREEZE at 8 seconds, should he wait a brief reasonable amount of time, say, 3 seconds, before starting his count? Then maybe when he gets to 4 blow the whistle to fix the clock?

It just seems odd that if you fix it right away, you are putting one team at a major disadvantage, and, worst case scenario, rewarding possible shenanigans.

I know the casebook says to ignore an intentional Delay of Game by a player who's just trying to get the clock stopped at the end of the game. Shouldn't we also then ignore a possible delay by the clock operator?
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:49am
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And then they tapped in a three-pointer to tie it up, right?
Fortunately NO!
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:43pm
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We put 0.3 on the clock and gave the ball to Team B.
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And then they tapped in a three-pointer to tie it up, right?
2 years in a row HS crews in Virginia have allowed catch and shoot to win games with 0.3 or less on the clock.
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Old Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:04pm
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2 years in a row HS crews in Virginia have allowed catch and shoot to win games with 0.3 or less on the clock.
Very, very sad. It's a rule that actually makes our lives easier and yet some of us still manage to mess it up.
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Old Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:13am
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2 years in a row HS crews in Virginia have allowed catch and shoot to win games with 0.3 or less on the clock.
Any newspaper or internet story on this incident? BTW, this same thing happened in So Cal in playoffs last year and ended the team's season!!
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