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Old Fri Feb 20, 2015, 04:51pm
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But it was okay to advocate at the 1968 Olympics with such a slogan as that was considered a political statement on human rights. ?!?!

When will our society realize that ALL such messages are inherently racial and unacceptable.
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Old Fri Feb 20, 2015, 06:03pm
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But it was okay to advocate at the 1968 Olympics with such a slogan as that was considered a political statement on human rights. ?!?!

When will our society realize that ALL such messages are inherently racial and unacceptable.
I'm not sure what you're referring to in the first part.

I agree with the 2nd part.

Frankly, in ballgame99's case, I'd follow up with a message to the state and let them deal with it.
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Old Fri Feb 20, 2015, 06:23pm
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I'm not sure what you're referring to in the first part.
Google it. Isn't isn't an obscure reference.
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Old Fri Feb 20, 2015, 06:40pm
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Old Fri Feb 20, 2015, 06:57pm
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My personal favorite was at an NHL game where someone held a sign up to the ref that said "Hey Dan. I think you're pregnant. You've missed two entire periods."

Completely not basketball related but hey. Points for creativity.
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Old Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:08pm
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Would you do something about this one?

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Old Fri Feb 20, 2015, 09:24pm
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No. If game management has an issue with it tgen they can handle it but until it starts to affect the game then I'm not getting involved (and no, I don't think hurting a players feelngs is enough). Admin cachoose to handle signs they deem offensive, obtrusive, or inappropriate as they see fit.

Although it is insensitive and politically incorrect, the above is a creatively funny way to negate the other sign.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:54am
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Google it. Isn't isn't an obscure reference.
I knew the reference, but hadn't looked at the original story yet (my fault) to make the connection.
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Old Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:40pm
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But it was okay to advocate at the 1968 Olympics with such a slogan as that was considered a political statement on human rights. ?!?!

When will our society realize that ALL such messages are inherently racial and unacceptable.
Another WTF moment from the Silver State.

Have you ever been banned from living in a state? When I was an infant my parents and I were banned from 17 states by the military. Maybe bullcrap like that led to that Olympic moment. Not that you are one to realize there are life experiences outside of what your brain can conceptualize.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 04:55am
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Another WTF moment from the Silver State.

Have you ever been banned from living in a state? When I was an infant my parents and I were banned from 17 states by the military. Maybe bullcrap like that led to that Olympic moment. Not that you are one to realize there are life experiences outside of what your brain can conceptualize.
That was wrong then and it would be wrong now. Personally, I don't have any stories to match yours. Hopefully that is because our society has progressed during my lifetime. I can tell you that my mother was prevented from certain things while in the US Air Force simply because of being female. That seems somewhat similar to what you unfortunately had to experience.

My belief is that having signs that express racial sentiments is unacceptable. Period. I don't care what group they are advocating or denouncing.

I sincerely hope that you wouldn't claim that it would be okay for students to hold signs reading "Black" & "Power" because of past wrongs in this country?

I don't see any such slogans as helpful or positive for our current society or it's future. Of course, I also don't believe that we should have Black History Month or a Congressional Black Caucus. Just the same we shouldn't have Latino, Caucasian, or Asian based ones either. Those only serve to segregate, divide, and classify people based upon race. That is what we should be striving to cease doing. Why can't we just have a History month?

People don't seem to look at our racial issues in a reverse manner and see that some situations intended to promote or help minorities actually come across as offensive and non-inclusive. For example, consider the TV channel named "Black Entertainment Television." What would your feeling be towards one named White Entertainment Television or Asian Entertainment Television? Would you find it offensive? Would you have any desire to watch it? Would you feel excluded by the name or the programming agenda?
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:11am
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That was wrong then and it would be wrong now. Personally, I don't have any stories to match yours. Hopefully that is because our society has progressed during my lifetime. I can tell you that my mother was prevented from certain things while in the US Air Force simply because of being female. That seems somewhat similar to what you unfortunately had to experience...
In 1968 Blacks were institutionally and legally treated as less than human in many parts of this nation. Were Blacks only supposed to engage in warm and cuddly forms of protests? Do you have any idea what types humiliation Carlos and Lewis suffered in their lives that led to that display at the Olympics? You are comparing their experiences and message to those kids from this article? Seriously?

And your mother being prevented from doing a few things is different than 17 states telling the Air Force that my father's interracial marriage and biracial child were legally unwelcome from being stationed within their borders. What form of protest is acceptable to you under those conditions?
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Get the AD to take care of it and put the ball in play. Shouldn't take a minute.
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Old Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:27am
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I see no reason to concern ones self with cr@p in the stands, regardless of the degree of offensiveness. We have a heck of a lot more to worry about between the lines. If its large or significant enough for us to notice, then the administrator on duty can sure as heck see it as well. That's their concern and role. Would we want and administrator offering up opinions on uniform rules?

If it's not affecting the game flow, players or officials, leave it alone. As it's been advocated here many times in the past...don't go looking for trouble.
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