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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:12am
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1) If the basket is good..do we count the basket?
Yes the basket counts. This is not a PC by definition, it is a double foul.

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2) Use AP for subsequent throw in?
Not unless the shot is missed. Otherwise it is POI give the ball to B on the end line.

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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 02:26am
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As JRut said, see Case Book 4.19.8 Sit. C.
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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 09:23am
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Is this two man or three man mechanics? Here we have two man, every game I work we pregame this specific scenario, if we have a double whistle and the ball is in the lane the lead always takes it. The trail goes up with a fist and holds his preliminary signal.
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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 09:29am
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Is this two man or three man mechanics? Here we have two man, every game I work we pregame this specific scenario, if we have a double whistle and the ball is in the lane the lead always takes it. The trail goes up with a fist and holds his preliminary signal.
Of course. But, sometimes is doesn't happen the way we'd like it to happen.
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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 09:47am
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Is this two man or three man mechanics? Here we have two man, every game I work we pregame this specific scenario, if we have a double whistle and the ball is in the lane the lead always takes it. The trail goes up with a fist and holds his preliminary signal.
I believe that to be standard pregame conversation for all games, 2-man or 3-man, but it still doesn't prevent blarges from occurring.
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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 10:14am
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Is this two man or three man mechanics? Here we have two man, every game I work we pregame this specific scenario, if we have a double whistle and the ball is in the lane the lead always takes it. The trail goes up with a fist and holds his preliminary signal.
Pregame this all you want, but be prepared for that play where not everyone does it the way you pregamed.
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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 10:23am
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My two partners earlier this year had a blarge, and they went with a charge based on the fact that it was in that official's primary.
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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 10:33am
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My two partners earlier this year had a blarge, and they went with a charge based on the fact that it was in that official's primary.
We can't get away with that ruling in these parts. Coaches know when we have F'ed it up, they expect us to go with the double foul.
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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 10:35am
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We can't get away with that ruling in these parts. Coaches know when we have F'ed it up, they expect us to go with the double foul.
I stayed out of the way while they sorted it out, and the one coach (who didn't get the call) wanted to know why. I didn't see any sort of argument, so I guess we got lucky.
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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:19pm
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My two partners earlier this year had a blarge, and they went with a charge based on the fact that it was in that official's primary.
I think this would be a very hard sell in NFHS. You could possibly do it in college, if there is definite knowledge that the defender is in the RA, but otherwise it'd be tough.
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Old Thu Feb 12, 2015, 01:23pm
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I think this would be a very hard sell in NFHS. You could possibly do it in college, if there is definite knowledge that the defender is in the RA, but otherwise it'd be tough.
"Hard sell" to who? The coaches? The players? The fans? My response to all three... who cares? What matters is getting the call right, and it seems to me that the right thing to do is find out what happened, instead of settling for a double foul, because you can't have both a charge and a block on this play.

If you want to know what to tell coaches, here you go... "coach, I was in the best position for that call, and that is how I saw it." Is he going to like it? Maybe not, but that's hardly the first or last call he's going to disagree with. So why change the way it should be done to accommodate him this time?
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