Yikes...

[MD Longhorn]

Coaches are responsible for their own reactions. This headline basically says the coach is not expected to behave if an official screws up.

The referees absolutely screwed up. And I would hope they get reprimanded (heck, their failure is on the state refereeing website... so I suspect they did or will). But the referee screw up, even one as egregious as this, does not absolve the coaches of their actions. The referee failure did not CAUSE the ejection... the coach's reaction to it did.

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Coaches are responsible for their own reactions. This headline basically says the coach is not expected to behave if an official screws up.

The referees absolutely screwed up. And I would hope they get reprimanded (heck, their failure is on the state refereeing website... so I suspect they did or will). But the referee screw up, even one as egregious as this, does not absolve the coaches of their actions. The referee failure did not CAUSE the ejection... the coach's reaction to it did.

And the coach will pay for her reaction with a suspension. Knowing people that officiate in the OHSAA, ejections are not able to be appealed. This wasn't missing a judgment call. This was an utter disaster in mechanics. And I think you would agree that if not for the breakdown in mechanics, the coach's reaction never happens.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Coaches are responsible for their own reactions. This headline basically says the coach is not expected to behave if an official screws up.

The referees absolutely screwed up. And I would hope they get reprimanded (heck, their failure is on the state refereeing website... so I suspect they did or will). But the referee screw up, even one as egregious as this, does not absolve the coaches of their actions. The referee failure did not CAUSE the ejection... the coach's reaction to it did.

I'm not sure I agree. One technical, fine. The coach had that coming. If I were her, I'd probably get one myself.

But why stay around to give a second one there THAT QUICKLY? It's unrealistic to think a coach is going to get a technical foul and go from 10 to 0 on the angry meter and sit right down. Get out of there, let the coach vent while the FTs are being shot, and if a non-calling official has to sit the coach down, it's a minute later.

I've seen some film the last few weeks. So important for these officials to call a technical and then go all the way over to the table to report it...why? So they can stay in the kitchen of the coach they just whacked?

[Smitty]

Wow. Either the L or the C should have seen that. There was nothing going on that would even have caused either one of them to even peripherally notice anything near where the ball was at the time.

I wonder what she said to get the second T. I don't even think she was all that out of control given what happened. Maybe one T. I've had coaches go way more apesh!t over a lot less. And the dude who missed it tosses her. Thankfully it's on tape. Embarrassing video for that crew.

[chymechowder]

Was the C coming in with a late whistle for the foul? Can't tell if he's got a fist. Or if he's just stopping play b/c the player was down.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

Was the C coming in with a late whistle for the foul? Can't tell if he's got a fist. Or if he's just stopping play b/c the player was down.

Looks like an open hand - stopping play because she was hurt. They all look clueless.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I wonder what she said to get the second T.

I think it was the scream she directed right in his face that did it.

Back to the original play. What would you consider calling here? There seems to be intent on the defender's part and she did go high on her opponent...

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I think it was the scream she directed right in his face that did it.

Back to the original play. What would you consider calling here? There seems to be intent on the defender's part and she did go high on her opponent...

He T'd her right in the face, too. Who does that? Just a horrible sequence from beginning to end.

I don't think there was intent to do anything but clear the kid away. The result was more because the offensive player was so much shorter than the defender and she just happened to get whacked in the neck. I don't see anything but a common foul.

Nice of no one to even go check on the kid who's on the floor.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Smitty

He T'd her right in the face, too.

I wasn't defending it, just trying to explain it.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Smitty

He T'd her right in the face, too. Who does that? Just a horrible sequence from beginning to end.

I don't think there was intent to do anything but clear the kid away. The result was more because the offensive player was so much shorter than the defender and she just happened to get whacked in the neck. I don't see anything but a common foul.

Nice of no one to even go check on the kid who's on the floor.

Nor does anyone acknowledge #24 white slamming the ball in disgust...a guaranteed T there as well. This just makes the entire crew look BAD all around. I'm kind of surprised the governing body even saw fit to post it.

And I disagree with the headline of the web post...Poor mechanics didn't cause the ejection...I'd say poor game management was more to blame.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Nor does anyone acknowledge #24 white slamming the ball in disgust...a guaranteed T there as well. This just makes the entire crew look BAD all around. I'm kind of surprised the governing body even saw fit to post it.

And I disagree with the headline of the web post...Poor mechanics didn't cause the ejection...I'd say poor game management was more to blame.

Causes <> Results

The end result of the officials mistakes was a coach's ejection. That is how my supervisor would characterize it also.

[JRutledge]

I do not know what this official was watching. At the very least call something on someone.

And if you are going to call a T, you do not need to look at them when doing it. Just make the call and keep it moving.

Peace

[HokiePaul]

Don't disagree with the headline either.

The mechanics (whether it be missing rough post play or the horrible mechanics of an exaggerated T signal right in the coaches face or the poor mechanics of not getting away from the coach and letting your partner(s) get the second T if necessary) did absolutely cause that ejection.

The coach's actions deserved a single T. That's it.
The second T (and ejection) only happened because of poor mechanics.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I wonder what she said to get the second T.

"Nice call, Fatso."