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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 06:27pm
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Whacking your partner?

This is a pretty damn funny situation I heard about that happened in our area this past Friday night.

A1 drives the lane and is called for a player control foul. After the call is made, he makes a comment to the calling official, who then assess a techincal foul to A1. Calling official then hears a comment from behind, "That was a good call!", so he blows his whistle for a technical on B1, who was the player that took the charge on the play.

R1 reports the PC foul and both technical fouls to the table, then he turns around to find one of his partners standing right there to tell him something:
U2: "Um, R1, that was me that made that comment."
R1: "What?"
U2: "That was me that said, 'That was a good call!'"
R1: (turning towards table): "Erase the technical foul on B1."

U2 then got to explain to B Head Coach why the technical foul against the visitors was being erased.

You can't make this stuff up!!
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 08:10pm
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The only thing that would make that better would be for coach B to complain after having the technical foul erased.

Different setup, but I had that happen once after I elected, after blowing the whistle and consulting with my partner but before reporting, to not call the T. I explained it to both coaches. The one who would have been shooting for the T was fine with it but the one who was saved a T found something to complain about.

My only response to the coach was "Are you really complaining about not calling a T on your own player?" and I walked away with that...SMH.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 11:59pm
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Back in the day when I was officiating HS, I had a boys varsity game where its a 4-pt game with like 2:30 to play in the 4th qtr. . .

Visiting team (green) is on defense and one of their players gets the rebound, but for some reason, decides to shoot at the opponent's basket. . .

Home team (white) has a player who decides not to let him shoot and clobbers him, but the ball goes in. . .

My partner at lead, blows his whistle super-loud runs up and scores it as an "And 1!"

Green player is all pumped up like "Yeah, yeah, yeah" and meanwhile his team and coach are screaming at him, like "What are you doing?"

So, I'm a trail and I cut my partner off, and he's like "What's wrong?"

I'm like, "You just gave an and-1 to a player who shot at the wrong basket"

He's like, "Oh" (now really confused) - "What do we do now"

To wrap this up, we counted the foul and the bucket, but green is in bonus on their end for 1&1 (8 team fouls). . .

So now, here's where the circus and calamity starts. . .

The white team head coach is now upset because he's not getting what he feels is a merited FT because my partner called a foul.

I explain to him that by rule, they don't get awarded a free throw for a player scoring a basket for them.

Now, he's livid, and he's giving me the business. . .

Move on to the green team. . .

So, we go to green's end where we are going to shoot 1 and 1, and now the green team head coach is screaming that his player should be shooting 2 shots because it was an attempted shot. . .

Again, I go over there and repeatedly explain that by rule, there's no such thing as an attempted shot at the wrong basket so therefore, his player doesn't get awarded for a shooting foul.

Meanwhile, my partner (who looked great in calling the foul, very dramatic and all), but who took this all sideways is now asking me why isn't the player shooting 2 shots because he took a shot down there. . .

I explain to him.

Long story short, we get it all done and both coaches are screaming at me at the end of the game because they felt I screwed it all up and my partner got all the accolades.

Both coaches called the HS assignor together and it was a fascinating explanation that my HS assignor couldn't believe that this play actually happened. . .

The joys of officiating.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:13am
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Back in the day when I was officiating HS, I had a boys varsity game where its a 4-pt game with like 2:30 to play in the 4th qtr. . .

Visiting team (green) is on defense and one of their players gets the rebound, but for some reason, decides to shoot at the opponent's basket. . .

Home team (white) has a player who decides not to let him shoot and clobbers him, but the ball goes in. . .

My partner at lead, blows his whistle super-loud runs up and scores it as an "And 1!"

Green player is all pumped up like "Yeah, yeah, yeah" and meanwhile his team and coach are screaming at him, like "What are you doing?"

So, I'm a trail and I cut my partner off, and he's like "What's wrong?"

I'm like, "You just gave an and-1 to a player who shot at the wrong basket"

He's like, "Oh" (now really confused) - "What do we do now"

To wrap this up, we counted the foul and the bucket, but green is in bonus on their end for 1&1 (8 team fouls). . .

So now, here's where the circus and calamity starts. . .

The white team head coach is now upset because he's not getting what he feels is a merited FT because my partner called a foul.

I explain to him that by rule, they don't get awarded a free throw for a player scoring a basket for them.

Now, he's livid, and he's giving me the business. . .

Move on to the green team. . .

So, we go to green's end where we are going to shoot 1 and 1, and now the green team head coach is screaming that his player should be shooting 2 shots because it was an attempted shot. . .

Again, I go over there and repeatedly explain that by rule, there's no such thing as an attempted shot at the wrong basket so therefore, his player doesn't get awarded for a shooting foul.

Meanwhile, my partner (who looked great in calling the foul, very dramatic and all), but who took this all sideways is now asking me why isn't the player shooting 2 shots because he took a shot down there. . .

I explain to him.

Long story short, we get it all done and both coaches are screaming at me at the end of the game because they felt I screwed it all up and my partner got all the accolades.

Both coaches called the HS assignor together and it was a fascinating explanation that my HS assignor couldn't believe that this play actually happened. . .

The joys of officiating.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:16am
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Yes, are you saying that should've been a violation and we wipe it because you can't have an attempted shot at the wrong basket?
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:17am
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Yes, are you saying that should've been a violation and we wipe it because you can't have an attempted shot at the wrong basket?
A shot at the opponents basket is not a try. Ball is dead on the foul.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:19am
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Yes, are you saying that should've been a violation and we wipe it because you can't have an attempted shot at the wrong basket?
That's your mistake right there. You can't count the bucket.
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Old Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:51am
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A1 drives the lane and is called for a player control foul. After the call is made, he makes a comment to the calling official, who then assess a techincal foul to A1. Calling official then hears a comment from behind, "That was a good call!", so he blows his whistle for a technical on B1, who was the player that took the charge on the play.
Late to this thread, but why would this be a technical foul on B1? Does anyone else issue a technical foul for positive comments from players? Hardly seems unsporting to me, and the whole situation in the OP would have been avoided had the official not been so anxious to whack people.
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Old Wed Jan 28, 2015, 08:53am
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Late to this thread, but why would this be a technical foul on B1? Does anyone else issue a technical foul for positive comments from players? Hardly seems unsporting to me, and the whole situation in the OP would have been avoided had the official not been so anxious to whack people.

If it is dripping with sarcasim the comment might get a TF.

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Old Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:16am
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Late to this thread, but why would this be a technical foul on B1? Does anyone else issue a technical foul for positive comments from players? Hardly seems unsporting to me, and the whole situation in the OP would have been avoided had the official not been so anxious to whack people.
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If it is dripping with sarcasim the comment might get a TF.

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I would also strongly consider it if it was pretty sarcastic. That said, even if he didn't recognize the voice, you'd think he could tell that his partner's words were NOT sarcastic!! Another reason to not guess!!
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