Is this a walk? (Video)

[Coach Bill]

Great move by Jake. No travel. However, KyBoy, since you see this official so often, ask him what he sees. Demonstrate the move, and ask for a ruling. If you do it legally, he'll probably say so, and tell you make sure not to drag your pivot foot, or let it come down before shooting.

[Camron Rust]

I think there was a travel on this play (sliding the pivot foot), but I don't think that the official was calling that the travel. His reaction was way too delayed for that to be the case. I think he was calling the step through as the travel.

So, he got it wrong twice on the same play.

[zm1283]

I don't have a travel here. I had to watch it three or four times. If that's the case it's usually not a big enough booger to pick.

[La Rikardo]

The player establishes the left foot as pivot, then when his right foot comes down, it looks like the left foot may slightly leave the floor before coming back down. I'm almost certainly not going to catch that in real time, and even if I do, it's a marginal call.

If we do not determine that the pivot foot had left the floor and come back up at that time, there is no travel since the ball was released on a try before the pivot foot touched the floor after he lunged toward the basket with his right foot.

[twocentsworth]

I would not have called a travel on this play. The player did not travel when he stopped his dribble nor did he travel when he executed his "up and under" move.

I really wish officials would stop "splitting hairs" when calling travel violations. If you have to turn the video of a traveling call into the "Zapruder Film" to explain or see a travel....then it shouldn't have been called!

It should simply be: it's either 100% /obvious travel...or it's NOTHING!...NOT: it looked funny/I THINK he travelled, so I'm going to call it.

[mutantducky]

totally agree. I've seen too many jump-stops, pivots, or just quick first steps be called travels. The last one in particular I get annoyed with. Takes away a good move by a player because a ref doesn't expect it to be so fast.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

I would not have called a travel on this play. The player did not travel when he stopped his dribble nor did he travel when he executed his "up and under" move.

I really wish officials would stop "splitting hairs" when calling travel violations. If you have to turn the video of a traveling call into the "Zapruder Film" to explain or see a travel....then it shouldn't have been called!

It should simply be: it's either 100% /obvious travel...or it's NOTHING!...NOT: it looked funny/I THINK he travelled, so I'm going to call it.

It just may be that some people are more capable of seeing it than others and it really isn't close to them. For those, should they ignore an obvious infraction that some others are just not capable of seeing? How far to we go with that? Do we just not call travels unless they move the foot at least 10'?

Just because you can't reliably tell when it is a travel doesn't change what it was.