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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 02:51pm
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Is this a walk? (Video)

Here is a link to a video of a walk call.

Per my understanding of the rules you can pick your pivot foot up during a shot or a pass as long as it does not come back down to floor before the ball is released.

This ref has called this on multiple occasions.

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http://youtu.be/r8Vcb44Iw7I


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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 02:57pm
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This appears legal to me. The only thing approaching a travel there is the potentially drug pivot foot on the stop.
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The travel is for dragging his (left) pivot foot prior to the up-and-under move.

His left foot starts on the free thrown lane line, and ends up more than a few inches inside the lane.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:04pm
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I see what you mean, but don't agree that is what he was calling. He's called a walk before on a post move where the pivot foot was established. I agree the pivot foot moved. But it the pivot foot did not slide you agree that it would then be a legal move after that?
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:06pm
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:08pm
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I do not see a travel. I think the official anticipated that the left foot (pivot) came back to the floor. I had to watch a few times to make sure that is not what I saw as well. A slow-motion might have helped to confirm, but I digress.

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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:14pm
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didn't see a travel or a drag.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:19pm
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I see two plausible things the R might have called:
  • The herky-jerky movement in the up-and-under may have caused the R to believe that the pivot foot came down -- for better or worse, when things look funny, bad calls can come out to play. (Though it also seems that the herky-jerky may have been caused by the defender bumping him.)
  • As others have said, he may have believed the pivot foot moved too much before the up-and-under.

But I'd also note that you say the ref called on multiple occaions. When I coach, I always tell my players that you have to adapt -- whether it is a good call or not, if that is at travel today, players need to adjust to what the officials are calling. (That is not a defense of bad calls, but the reality of play and how smart players adjust to their enviornment rather than continuing to do what the officials have made clear was going to be called against them.)
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:25pm
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He slides after he ends his dribble. I would call this travel 100 out of a 100 times.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:30pm
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He slides after he ends his dribble. I would call this travel 100 out of a 100 times.
I don't see a slide. I mean no one can actually stop on a dime.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:38pm
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I don't see a slide. I mean no one can actually stop on a dime.
If he can't stop, he's not ready for this move.

Some call a travel when the pivot goes up, just like some send the players behind half court for technical foul free throws.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:39pm
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I don't see a slide. I mean no one can actually stop on a dime.
Those 2 sentences are making the opposite points. On one hand you say there is no slide. On the other hand, you say no can stop without sliding.
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Those 2 sentences are making the opposite points. On one hand you say there is no slide. On the other hand, you say no can stop without sliding.
I'm saying the slide that you see is so miniscule if there, I think it's splitting hairs.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:22pm
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I see a legal move but possible there was a drag. But that being said, I would encourage refs to familiarize themselves when some of these post moves when the player is jumping off the non-pivot foot. These can easily be called travels. 110 mark


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