Tripping, Or Being Tripped ???

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

It's not so much that what B did was wrong. But the fact of the matter is he doesn't have LGP, and therefore could be called for a blocking foul.

If they both returned to the floor on their feet, and A1 got the rebound... turned... and ran into B1 (who had not gained LGP)... what do you have? A blocking foul on B1.

And it doesn't seem a whole lot different than if B1 is guarding A1 (who has the ball). B1 has not established LGP, and A1 trips while trying to dribble around him. That would be a blocking foul on B1... not a traveling violation on A1.

Why do we give B1 more leeway since he's laying on the floor, and not standing? You don't need intent to call a foul against a player. Heck, there's plenty of times a foul by a player is an accident.

I don't understand treating B1 different here, just because he fell. And at the same time penalizing A1 when he absolutely did nothing wrong. Unless you count not looking down, to make sure nobody fell to the floor, before taking a step after a rebound.

By the way... the reason A1 fell to the floor is because of B1. He didn't just fall... he was tripped.

The difference is that the case in point deals with the right of . . . "Every player (being) entitled to a spot on the playing court provided such player gets there first without illegally contacting an opponent." That is different from the GUARDING rules, 4-23-1 through 5. And that statement is made at the beginning of those rules, to set the foundation for guarding an opponent, whether stationary or moving.
I think of a player standing on the court, not guarding an opponent, and an opponent simply runs through/over that player. The player who was run over, has a right to be on the court, and not be in peril of being a target, just because he/she was not trying to guard an opponent.
I don't see that basic principle as giving more leeway to the player, but as a starting point to establish the rules of guarding, which are then expanded to define the priciples of competition - offense/defense.