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Old Mon Dec 13, 2010, 01:26am
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Tripping from Behind

Situation: Defender's foot makes slight contact with the foot of the dribbler he is pursuing. Dribbler trips. Foul for illegal contact.
Question: With no official mechanic for "tripping", which signal should properly be used when reporting foul to the table, illustration #32 Blocking, or #33 Pushing?
Reason for asking:
10-6-6: Contact caused by a defensive player who approaches from behind
is pushing.
Yet,
4-7-1: Blocking is illegal personal contact which impedes the progress of
an opponent with or without the ball.
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Pushing is really more of movement into the opponents body whether by use of the hands or or the body.

Blocking is the closest foul to describe "tripping".
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Situation: Defender's foot makes slight contact with the foot of the dribbler he is pursuing. Dribbler trips. Foul for illegal contact.
Question: With no official mechanic for "tripping", which signal should properly be used when reporting foul to the table, illustration #32 Blocking, or #33 Pushing?
Reason for asking:
10-6-6: Contact caused by a defensive player who approaches from behind
is pushing.
Yet,
4-7-1: Blocking is illegal personal contact which impedes the progress of
an opponent with or without the ball.
There's no foul signal because the penalty isn't a foul.

The penalty is 2 minutes in the box. Team A plays 5-on-4 for 2 minutes, trying to score as many in that time for the advantage.
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Old Mon Dec 13, 2010, 07:38am
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I do not think it matters. This is something either way you should not worry about. Just call a push, since it is from behind that makes the player fall and move on.

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I know more about rocket science than I do about NCAA officiating, but isn't there a trip signal for NCAA women? Or is it a hit in the head signal? OK. Let's get back to talking about propulsion systems.
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Old Mon Dec 13, 2010, 08:27am
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I know more about rocket science than I do about NCAA officiating, but isn't there a trip signal for NCAA women? Or is it a hit in the head signal? OK. Let's get back to talking about propulsion systems.
There is a trip signal in both NCAA mechanics.

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Old Mon Dec 13, 2010, 08:41am
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Wouldn't we consider tripping a form of illegal contact?
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There is a trip signal in both NCAA mechanics.

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The signal to which Jeff is referring is used as the Kicking signal for a Violation for both Men's and Women's and as a Kicking/Tripping signal for a foul is for Women's only. Women's foul signals that the Men's do NOT USE include: Hit to the Head, Hook/Wrap, and my favorite, Kneeing.

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