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Originally Posted by BryanV21
It's not so much that what B did was wrong. But the fact of the matter is he doesn't have LGP, and therefore could be called for a blocking foul.
If they both returned to the floor on their feet, and A1 got the rebound... turned... and ran into B1 (who had not gained LGP)... what do you have? A blocking foul on B1.
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Incorrect. I have nothing....or possibly a charge. LGP is NOT required for a charge or to avoid a block in many cases. It might be a block but it will not be for the case you described unless there is more that happened.
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Originally Posted by BryanV21
And it doesn't seem a whole lot different than if B1 is guarding A1 (who has the ball). B1 has not established LGP, and A1 trips while trying to dribble around him. That would be a blocking foul on B1... not a traveling violation on A1.
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Not necessarily. It may be nothing.
You seem to want to call a foul on B just because there was contact and B did not have LGP. Unfortunately, that is just not correct. B has to actually do something illegal for it to be a foul and not having LGP is not illegal.
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Originally Posted by BryanV21
Why do we give B1 more leeway since he's laying on the floor, and not standing? You don't need intent to call a foul against a player. Heck, there's plenty of times a foul by a player is an accident.
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We don't....if you properly call fouls (or properly not call fouls) when B is standing.
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Originally Posted by BryanV21
I don't understand treating B1 different here, just because he fell. And at the same time penalizing A1 when he absolutely did nothing wrong. Unless you count not looking down, to make sure nobody fell to the floor, before taking a step after a rebound.
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A1's mistake was trying to cross a location already occupied by another player. If A successfully goes over B, great, but B is not liable for A's poor choice of routes if B does nothing wrong. There is no requirement for B to make his/her position known to A. A has the ball and is in control. A has to act accordingly.
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Originally Posted by BryanV21
By the way... the reason A1 fell to the floor is because of B1. He didn't just fall... he was tripped.
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No. If you trip over a log while walking through the forest, did the log trip you or did you trip over the log. The difference is in who is the actor. B did not trip A. B didn't do anything. A tripped, but it wasn't B that did it.