Called my first T

[ballgame99]

We always remember our first, right?

Final 7 seconds, home team is out of timeouts and down 4 in a very tense game; home team inbounds and knocks down a 3 with less than 5 seconds to play, so H12 grabs the ball and chucks it, literally, into the second level of seats. Whack. Home bench is whining because they think they are entitled to a DOG warning. Home coach was livid, and pretty much begging for another T, but with 1 second left and the one T already called, I wasn't going to give him the satisfaction.

This was one of those games that was a blast to officiate for about 30 of the minutes, but the last 2 were a nightmare. The emotions from both sides elevate and no matter what we call/don't call we are going to hear about it. I actually felt like I stayed focused and calm, so I'm good with my game. Although I'm sure because of our state's coach-based evaluation system I will get slammed.

[Smitty]

What you could have (and probably should have) done is just let the clock wind down to zero and game over. The rules allow for that in this exact situation. Calling the T, even though unlikely, still gives H the opportunity to tie or win the game on some kind of crazy steal and shot off the inbound pass from the throw-in following the T.

[Adam]

If the other team was trying to throw the ball in, call the T. If they were going to let the clock run out, let the clock run (per the case play).

Throwing it into the stands isn't going to be a DOG warning at any point in the game, anyway. If you call the T and the coach shows his ass, give him his own T regardless of whether you want to give him the satisfaction.

I had this play in a freshman game a few years ago, but instead of throwing the ball, the team who scored simply stepped OOB hoping for a call. My partner rightly ignored it, and I looked at the coach who just shrugged his shoulders and smiled.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Adam

If the other team was trying to throw the ball in, call the T. If they were going to let the clock run out, let the clock run (per the case play).

What's the case play number for this one?

[La Rikardo]

Originally Posted by bainsey

What's the case play number for this one?

See 5.10.1 Situation E and 9.2.10 Situation A.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

9.2.10 Situation A.

9.2.10 SITUATION A: A1 is out of bounds for a throw-in. B1 reaches through
the boundary plane and knocks the ball out of A1’s hands. Team B has not been
warned previously for a throw-in plane infraction. RULING: B1 is charged with a
technical foul and it also results in the official having a team warning recorded
and reported to the head coach. COMMENT: In situations with the clock running
and five or less seconds left in the game, a throw-in plane violation or interfering
with the ball following a goal should be ignored if its only purpose is to stop the
clock. However, if the tactic in any way interferes with the thrower’s efforts to
make a throw-in, a technical foul for delay shall be called even though no previous
warning had been issued. In this situation, if the official stopped the clock
and issued a team warning, it would allow the team to benefit from the tactic. (4-
47-1; 10-1-5b, c; 10-3-10)

[APG]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Final 7 seconds, home team is out of timeouts and down 4 in a very tense game; home team inbounds and knocks down a 3 with less than 5 seconds to play, so H12 grabs the ball and chucks it, literally, into the second level of seats. Whack. Home bench is whining because they think they are entitled to a DOG warning. Home coach was livid, and pretty much begging for another T, but with 1 second left and the one T already called, I wasn't going to give him the satisfaction.

I would personally get away from the line of thinking of not giving a T or a ejecting a T because it would "give the [coach] satisfaction."

Often times, there are state sanctions that come along with an ejection. If a coach is skirting these punishments because of officials thinking the coach is going to get some type of satisfaction, then we're doing ourselves a disservice. Sometimes, all it takes is a 1-2 game suspension to change a coach's future actions.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by APG

Often times, there are state sanctions that come along with an ejection. If a coach is skirting these punishments because of an official thinking the coach is going to get some type of satisfaction, then we're doing ourselves a disservice. Sometimes, all it takes is a 1-2 game suspension to change a coach's future actions.

In Texas, if a coach is ejected, he has to go to Austin (which may be a very long ride depending on where you live) to face the state governing board. They will get probation or a suspension depending on certain factors, I believe. I had my first coach ejection in a holiday tourney a few weeks ago and I know he was not looking forward to the trip.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Smitty

In Texas, if a coach is ejected, he has to go to Austin (which may be a very long ride depending on where you live) to face the state governing board. They will get probation or a suspension depending on certain factors, I believe. I had my first coach ejection in a holiday tourney a few weeks ago and I know he was not looking forward to the trip.

So the punishment in Texas is a trip to Austin . Who wouldn't want to go?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by deecee

So the punishment in Texas is a trip to Austin . Who wouldn't want to go?

I'm pretty sure no coach wants to go during the basketball season. They don't take these things lightly.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Smitty

In Texas, if a coach is ejected, he has to go to Austin (which may be a very long ride depending on where you live) to face the state governing board. They will get probation or a suspension depending on certain factors, I believe. I had my first coach ejection in a holiday tourney a few weeks ago and I know he was not looking forward to the trip.

When I called in Texas (in Austin actually), I remember the punishment being something similar to what you said. Guess the mileage wouldn't be an issue for those in the area my chapter covered, but it's a time issue as well for the coach...plus the chance of suspension.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by APG

When I called in Texas (in Austin actually), I remember the punishment being something similar to what you said. Guess the mileage wouldn't be an issue for those in the area my chapter covered, but's a time issue as well for the coach...plus the chance of suspension.

I think the probation period is a year so if they get tossed again within that year I think they get suspended for the season and maybe more - I don't really know. As it was, the team was from Round Rock (near Austin) so the trip for him to Austin wasn't that far, but I bet his trip home from the tourney in Dallas wasn't fun for him.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Smitty

In Texas, if a coach is ejected, he has to go to Austin (which may be a very long ride depending on where you live) to face the state governing board. They will get probation or a suspension depending on certain factors, I believe. I had my first coach ejection in a holiday tourney a few weeks ago and I know he was not looking forward to the trip.

Yikes. That could be upwards of 500 or 600 miles one way I would think. That should be a deterrent in and of itself.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Yikes. That could be upwards of 500 or 600 miles one way I would think. That should be a deterrent in and of itself.

9-10 hours each way from El Paso or Dalhart, 11-12 hours from Perryton.

[Rich1]

Originally Posted by Smitty

In Texas, if a coach is ejected, he has to go to Austin (which may be a very long ride depending on where you live) to face the state governing board. They will get probation or a suspension depending on certain factors, I believe.

Only if he wants to appeal the ejection would a trip to Austin to appear in front of the committee be necessary. If he accepts the ejection then he gets a public reprimand (name published in the back of the UIL coaches magazine) and probation in that sport for 1 year. If he has not taken the required NFHS course then the penalty is automatically upgraded to include a game suspension. Has no bearing on the other sports he may coach.

Subsequent ejections while on probation will require that trip to Austin to have your punishment determined by the exec committee.

Since ADs hate to be associated with this process coaches are much more fearful of their wrath than that of the EC. I know several coaches who have been let go after repeated ejections because they were "embarassing" their programs.