Free throw violation?

[johnny d]

For those who don't know, rule 11 is the rule that allows officials that don't know what the hell they are doing to continue making shit up as they go along. It is also the rule that allows officials to be convinced that they should call a violation on the shooting team, and disallow the second free throw for A1.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by David B

Play A1 shooting second of two free throws and is holding the ball when player A2 who is behind the three point line shoves B2 who is beside him and falls into the area which would be a violation.

Originally Posted by Adam

You are correct, this should have been a TC foul, thus no FTs.

Players jockey for position all the time by pushing each other around, so I see nothing that indicates this should have been an intentional foul.

While I understand on the lane, I don't think there's much jockeying for position on the 3 point line. Plus if it was a shove, maybe you HTBT, but this sounds like an intentional, not TC. I think I shoot the FT lanes cleared, then shoot the intentional at the other end lanes cleared, and finally inbound on the sideline closest to where the foul occurred.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by frezer11

While I understand on the lane, I don't think there's much jockeying for position on the 3 point line. Plus if it was a shove, maybe you HTBT, but this sounds like an intentional, not TC. I think I shoot the FT lanes cleared, then shoot the intentional at the other end lanes cleared, and finally inbound on the sideline closest to where the foul occurred.

Not common, but certainly possible without an IF. If both players are leaning in waiting for the ball to hit, it may not take much force to knock the opponent across the lane.

I'm just saying it's not automatic, and there's nothing in the OP that makes me think it's more than what he said. The officials there didn't deem it an intentional foul.