Free throw violations by both teams, not simultaneous

[deecee]

adam, I've had a similar full court heave or two, but it's the defenses fault. Don't pull your kids back and just instruct them to challenge the shot and not foul. Heaves are way easier when they are unobstructed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by deecee

adam, I've had a similar full court heave or two, but it's the defenses fault. Don't pull your kids back and just instruct them to challenge the shot and not foul. Heaves are way easier when they are unobstructed.

I agree, and after the game we talked about it in the locker room. He spent 3.5 seconds lining up that shot as he dribbled to the division line.

But I see far more offensive rebounds and put-backs than I do made half-court shots. Is it a long shot? Yep. So? It's the only legal chance they have. Otherwise, they're giving the ball back to the other team, still down 1, with 1 second on the clock.

[CoachJW]

Thank you for your input. It may be a stupid strategy, it may be a brilliant strategy. Assume now that the shooter is skilled at missing off the rim and the game reaches the "actionless contest" or "impasse" point (shooter keeps missing, opponent keeps violating, re-shoot, repeat). Is the consensus that you would have a warning, then a technical foul on the next violation? Given that you cannot force the shooter to make his shot and end the insanity, how many times would it have to occur before administering the warning?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by CoachJW

Thank you for your input. It may be a stupid strategy, it may be a brilliant strategy. Assume now that the shooter is skilled at missing off the rim and the game reaches the "actionless contest" or "impasse" point (shooter keeps missing, opponent keeps violating, re-shoot, repeat). Is the consensus that you would have a warning, then a technical foul on the next violation? Given that you cannot force the shooter to make his shot and end the insanity, how many times would it have to occur before administering the warning?

Until I happened to sneeze at the right moment and not see it.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by CoachJW

Thank you for your input. It may be a stupid strategy, it may be a brilliant strategy. Assume now that the shooter is skilled at missing off the rim and the game reaches the "actionless contest" or "impasse" point (shooter keeps missing, opponent keeps violating, re-shoot, repeat). Is the consensus that you would have a warning, then a technical foul on the next violation? Given that you cannot force the shooter to make his shot and end the insanity, how many times would it have to occur before administering the warning?

This is an insightful post. If it's me, I'll probably give it five rounds or so, because I think somewhere in the five, a shooter will either brisk the net low or bank too high on the backboard, thereby yielding our double violation and allowing us to go to the arrow.

If he can do it five straight times, then he can probably do it all night and we need to try something else. I just don't know which team is more worthy of a warning and/or T at that point because they're both participants in the jackassery.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by CoachJW

Thank you for your input. It may be a stupid strategy, it may be a brilliant strategy. Assume now that the shooter is skilled at missing off the rim and the game reaches the "actionless contest" or "impasse" point (shooter keeps missing, opponent keeps violating, re-shoot, repeat). Is the consensus that you would have a warning, then a technical foul on the next violation? Given that you cannot force the shooter to make his shot and end the insanity, how many times would it have to occur before administering the warning?

For me, as soon as I realize they're doing it on purpose, I'm warning.

So, two scenarios.
1. Coach instructs players to do it and I hear him. I'm warning after the first one.
2. No instructions that I can hear from the coach, it may take me a couple of violations to recognize what's going on. I warn them as soon as I recognize it.

They only get one warning.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by deecee

adam, I've had a similar full court heave or two, but it's the defenses fault. Don't pull your kids back and just instruct them to challenge the shot and not foul. Heaves are way easier when they are unobstructed.

Plus I think we officials are sometimes loathe to call a shooting foul on a half court prayer. If the contact is huge, yeah. Otherwise (and I'm not saying this is right, but...) we tend to bail out. Good coaches know that. So challenge the shot!

Sort of like in football when the R resists calling a safety unless he is 125% sure the running back failed to get out of the end zone.