"Shooter Changes His Mind" Travel (Video)

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He can't be the first to touch regardless, if he jumped prior to releasing the ball.

Suppose I receive the ball and don't begin a dribble. Then I jump up for a high pass to a teammate, but the teammate doesn't see it coming and clears out. I race over to the ball and start dribbling it. Not a violation, right?

So how is it any different if I receive a pass, go up for a shot, realize it isn't going to work, and "pass" the ball. If I hadn't dribbled in the first place, can't I now go to the ball and dribble it?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Suppose I receive the ball and don't begin a dribble. Then I jump up for a high pass to a teammate, but the teammate doesn't see it coming and clears out. I race over to the ball and start dribbling it. Not a violation, right?

Wrong. Player's pivot foot left the floor before he released the ball for the dribble. Traveling.

[BillyMac]

When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a held ball. If, in this situation, the shooter loses control of the ball because of the block, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues. If, in this situation, the defender simply touches the ball, and the airborne shooter returns to the floor holding the ball, it’s a traveling violation. When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a held ball. If, in this situation, the shooter loses control of the ball because of the block, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues. If, in this situation, the defender simply touches the ball, and the airborne shooter returns to the floor holding the ball, it’s a traveling violation. When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor.

As stated above, this part may not be necessary to have a violation.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

As stated above, this part may not be necessary to have a violation.

When officials are able to read minds, and we know that this is definitely the start of a dribble, and definitely not the start of a pass, then I would agree with you. Right now, it's worded to fit all rules pertaining to the limitations of moving one's pivot foot, assuming that the official lacks the ability to read minds, or predict the future.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

When officials are able to read minds, and we know that this is definitely the start of a dribble, and definitely not the start of a pass, then I would agree with you. Right now, it's worded to fit all rules pertaining to the limitations of moving one's pivot foot.

No need to read minds, it's judgment. A pass is throwing, pushing, or batting the ball to another player. If there is no other player in the picture, there is no pass. If you don't want to call the violation, you could just call it a really bad shot.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

No need to read minds, it's judgment. A pass is throwing, pushing, or batting the ball to another player. If there is no other player in the picture, there is no pass. If you don't want to call the violation, you could just call it a really bad shot.

There are four teammates (as well as five opponents, and the player himself) on a 4200 square foot court. I'm waiting until I see who next touches the ball. Why rush to judgment?

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

{sit #1 When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a held ball. COLOR="Blue"], [/COLOR][/COLOR]in this situation, the shooter loses control of the ball because of the block, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues. {sit#3> If, in this situation, the defender simply touches the ball, and the airborne shooter returns to the floor holding the ball, it’s a traveling violation. {sit#4> When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor.

*well stated!
I see situation #1: at least twice per game.
I see situation #2: at least 3 to 4 times per game.
I see situation#3: perhaps 1 or 2 times per season.
I have never seen situation#4, neither while officiating nor while observing a game.