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Old Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:07pm
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I read through some threads and the issue about whether or not Ast coaches should be talking to the refs.
In the rule book, where does it say only one coach should be standing and only the HC should be talking to the ref? I understand that you only want the HC and the Ast coach should not be standing or involved with the refs especially in a negative way but is that in the book?
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:17pm
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Rule 10-4-4
Essentially, no one may stand at the bench (with exceptions specifically listed) except the head coach (per 10-5-1a). Without the use of the box, the HC is granted extra exceptions to stand and request a TO or to replace a player who has been directed to leave the game.

The HC is the only coach acknowledged in the rule book. There's nothing that says ACs can't ask questions, and most of us will answer legitimate questions from an AC.

No one, however, is allowed by rule to attempt to influence an official's decision or disrespectfully address an official. Sometimes, we give a little extra rope to the HC, but don't confuse this with what's allowed by rule.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:21pm
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:44pm
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We do not do everything because a rulebook says so. We do a lot of things because they are best practices.

Honestly it is up to each official to decide what they accept or do not accept. We already use discretion on the rulebook when it comes to being questioned about our judgment. I will have a dialogue much more with HC than anyone else. But for the most part, I do not like talking to assistants. Because if I tell an assistant one thing, it might not get said to the HC. I would rather give the horse's mouth my words than someone else that might not communicate to the person in charge properly.

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Old Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:53pm
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We do not do everything because a rulebook says so. We do a lot of things because they are best practices.

Honestly it is up to each official to decide what they accept or do not accept. We already use discretion on the rulebook when it comes to being questioned about our judgment. I will have a dialogue much more with HC than anyone else. But for the most part, I do not like talking to assistants. Because if I tell an assistant one thing, it might not get said to the HC. I would rather give the horse's mouth my words than someone else that might not communicate to the person in charge properly.

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I happen to agree. We do many things because they are best practice. During a live ball or any quick interaction I prefer to talk to the head coach. He is the one that is likely to make any decisions anyway. However, I understand if during a time out an assistant has a question. As long as the assistant is respectful and has a question I will answer it during a time out. I will sometimes give the head coach a sentence during a live ball or to explain a call that was just made. As I said, the only time I will talk to an assistant is during a time out, they are there to assist the coach, that is what they are doing during a time out if they are coming with a question.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:58pm
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Someone once told me to "deal with the organ grinder, not the monkey."

If an assistant coach starts to cross the line, I will tell the head coach, "Coach, control your bench." That's always worked before for me.

Overall, I'm okay with civil questions from an AC. Yesterday, A team had used up it's last time out, and the assistant coach was facing me while the head coach was busy instructing. The assistant coach made it clear they knew it was their last time out, so I saw no need to interrupt the head coach to inform them of something they already knew.
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Old Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:12pm
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I only interact with AC's who are requesting pertinent information, or who tell funny jokes.
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Old Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:21pm
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Keep in mind that today's assistant's are tomorrow's head coaches!

It all depends on the approach. If they ask a question and do so respectfully at a good time... often it will be during a timeout, I will listen and respond if necessary. If they are complaining or arguing then I have much less patience and will not tolerate that from their role. Any barking during a live ball will not be tolerated from bench personnel/assts..
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