Brainfart Situation

[kstiles99]

I think I have it now. Tell me if this is right.

It can only be a pc foul OR an intentional/flagrant foul. One or the other right? Because if it is flagrant.. It doesn't matter who is in control of the ball, the offended player/sub gets 2 shots and the ball for an inbound

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by kstiles99

I think I have it now. Tell me if this is right.

It can only be a pc foul OR a flagrant foul. One or the other right? Because if it is flagrant.. It doesn't matter who is in control of the ball, the offended player/sub gets 2 shots and the ball for an inbound

You're on the right track. In NFHS, it could also be an intentional foul, which is the same as flagrant minus the disqualification. That's a judgment on whether the contact was excessive versus savage/violent.

And to muddy the waters even more, if B1 were to retaliate and get a T, now your flagrant foul is part of a false double foul.

[kstiles99]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

You're on the right track. In NFHS, it could also be an intentional foul, which is the same as flagrant minus the disqualification. That's a judgment on whether the contact was excessive versus savage/violent.

And to muddy the waters even more, if B1 were to retaliate and get a T, now your flagrant foul is part of a false double foul.

Well let's see what we'd do if this happened.

I was always taught to shoot FTs in the order the fouls occurred.

This means B1 would shoot the flagrant FTs (unless the T was his second (or 5th personal) in which case his substitute would shoot)

Then A1s sub would shoot the technicals.

Now we give the ball to team A at the division line because of technical foul procedure.
Please tell me I got all of that

[La Rikardo]

Originally Posted by kstiles99

Well let's see what we'd do if this happened.

I was always taught to shoot FTs in the order the fouls occurred.

This means B1 would shoot the flagrant FTs (unless the T was his second (or 5th personal) in which case his substitute would shoot)

Then A1s sub would shoot the technicals.

Now we give the ball to team A at the division line because of technical foul procedure.
Please tell me I got all of that

Almost. B1 would shoot two free throws unless he was injured as a result of the foul or was disqualified for whatever reason, in which case his substitute would shoot the FTs. If there is no substitute available, any teammate may shoot the FTs as selected by the captain or head coach. Then, since B1's foul is a technical foul, any eligible A team member may shoot the two FTs (or two different shooters if they want). Then A will get a throw-in at the division line.

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

Then A will get a throw-in at the division line.

Almost. Team A would get a division line throw-in opposite the table.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by kstiles99

I was always taught to shoot FTs in the order the fouls occurred.

This is correct in NFHS. Makes it very simple to administer penalties.

Don't get confused when you watch NCAA games on TV; in the vast majority of NCAA cases, they take a break to administer the free throws for the T, then go back to the point of interruption. The exceptions are for Flagrant 2 Technicals, Contact Dead Ball Technicals, and a small number of other specific cases.