Brainfart Situation

[crosscountry55]

Yup. So for NFHS, procedure is:

1. Signal the foul and close down on the scene to prevent escalation or a fight. Then, if it's not 100% obvious, hold the closed fist foul signal and confer with your partners to confirm whether intentional/flagrant. If it is, give the crossed arms signal. If it was 100% obvious, you can give that signal right away. The crew should make a note of who B1 is so we get the shooter right; if you don't do this, since the procedure looks like a technical foul at first, the opposing coach might just send any old shooter to the line.

2. When reporting, there is no separate signal for flagrant, so announce it at the table, and then tell Coach A that A1 is disqualified for a flagrant foul. Start the 20 second replacement period and then get away from the table and let your partner(s) handle the rest; that's not the time for a discussion with the coach, cuz chances are he/she won't like you very much right then.

3. Since this occurred in A's backcourt, B1 (or his/her sub if B1 is injured and cannot shoot) will shoot 2 with the lane cleared under the same basket.

4. Then B gets a throw in at the spot nearest where the foul occurred, which sounds like it's under the basket on one side or the other.

I don't know as much about NCAA. This is probably a Flagrant 2 foul, but if you had a monitor I think you're required to go confirm that. Subsequent procedure is the same as NFHS for a Flagrant foul, I believe.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Yup. So for NFHS, procedure is:

1. Signal the foul and close down on the scene to prevent escalation or a fight. Then, if it's not 100% obvious, hold the closed fist foul signal and confer with your partners to confirm whether intentional/flagrant. If it is, give the crossed arms signal.

A) I don't think you need to (or should) keep the fist up while you are conferring with your partner(s). By this time, everyone knows you have a foul.

B) BY NFHS mechanics, the "crossed arms" is only for an intentional foul. There is no signal for a flagrant foul. I do recognize that some areas have such a signal.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I do recognize that some areas have such a signal.

Link below: Earl Weaver at his best (or worst):

http://youtu.be/1JUlf_Ljzg8

[kstiles99]

Every case I have described in this thread is relevant to NFHS rules only

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kstiles99

Every case I have described in this thread is relevant to NFHS rules only

I only ask because in NFHS, flagrant is a disqualifying foul. Most likely, your OP would be an intentional foul unless you thought the player was trying to hurt his opponent.

[Mark Padgett]

Be sure to take lessons from this guy if you're going to call intentional fouls.

[OKREF]

NFHS. Isn't a flagrant foul classified as a technical foul. Or is only if it is a dead ball