The "running bobble"

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Do not even try that argument with me, it's a violation either way.

It is NOT a violation either way. Either the player is bobbling, fumbling would be the better word to use to describe the situation, the ball or the player has player control; you cannot have both at the same time.

I am going back to bed now.

MTD, Sr.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

It is NOT a violation either way. Either the player is bobbling, fumbling would be the better word to use to describe the situation, the ball or the player has player control; you cannot have both at the same time.

I'm not saying you can have both at the same time, but there is gray area between a real fumble and controlled "fumble" or "tap" which equates to player control. If you want to pick nits and say "oh you can't use the word fumble to describe anything controlled" that's fine but let's focus on the bigger picture here of how to get the call right, not argue semantics.

[ballgame99]

I worked a 3 whistle game with my assignor the other night (I don't do much 3 man, so I felt like it was an audition) and he called a travel on a running bobble like this. I didn't feel it was a travel. I did NOT inform him that he was wrong.

[Rich]

This conversation reminds me of people who argue which signal to give at the table on a defensive foul. Not interesting and not important.

It's unlikely I'm initiating a conversation during the game if a partner calls a violation here unless it's in my primary.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I'm not saying you can have both at the same time, but there is gray area between a real fumble and controlled "fumble" .

There are lots of "gray areas" -- that's why they need officials.

While I'm not real big on semantics, on an official's forum, I think we should strive to use the proper terms -- and "controlled fumble" is an oxymoron.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

There are lots of "gray areas" -- that's why they need officials.

While I'm not real big on semantics, on an official's forum, I think we should strive to use the proper terms -- and "controlled fumble" is an oxymoron.

Bob:

I agree. The point I have been trying to make is that either A1 is on control of the ball or he is not. We cannot have both at the same time.

MTD, Sr.