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Old Tue Dec 16, 2014, 07:16pm
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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP View Post
Somebody point me back toward where in a book (I'd love an NCAA-W book(s) reference, but anything will do) to where the case plays for "the official shall wait until the layup is successful/unsuccessful to assess the technical foul, yadayada" is supported by a rule reference that contradicts:

"Art. 2. A live ball shall not become dead when a foul is committed by an opponent of a player who starts a try for goal before a foul occurs, provided that time does not expire before the ball is in flight."

Haven't thought about that in a couple of years, can't find things, and want to know where that lives, so that I can explain how the cited rule doesn't for some reason include the HC as an "opponent."
Closest thing in the current books is this, though it is a bit of a stretch...fairly sure there used to be a case that involved an unsporting T on the HC,

Rule: 9.3.3


9.3.3 SITUATION D:

The score is tied 60 to 60 with four seconds remaining in the game. A1 has a fast break and is near the free-throw line on his/her way to an uncontested lay-up. B5 running down the court near the sideline, intentionally runs out of bounds in the hopes of getting a leaving-the-floor violation called.

RULING: B5's intentional violation should be ignored and A1's activity should continue without interruption.

COMMENT: Non-contact, away from the ball, illegal defensive violations (i.e. excessively swinging the elbows, leaving the floor for an unauthorized reason) specifically designed to stop the clock near the end of a period or take away a clear advantageous position by the offense should be temporarily ignored. The defensive team should not benefit from the tactic. If time is not a factor, the defense should be penalized with the violation or a technical foul for unsporting behavior. (10-1-8)
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Old Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:28am
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I didn't "see" anything that I deemed T worthy on the tape. Particularly at an NCAA men's level where coaches often walk out onto the floor during dead balls and use profanity at their players and in the direction of officials all the time. To be fair after the first t he said "That's bull$#!&" and there was no reaction so the idea that he's being penalized for profanity is off base anyway. I'm also not considering emphatic clapping in a gym with a few thousand hostile cheering fans to be excessive either though.

Now he could have quietly or even politely call out the integrity of an official. Made a personal remark or refernence. He could have even used any of the non profane magic words "cheater . . . cheating . . .idiot . . .blind . . .etc etc." but they would probably be enough to earn him a T.
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