Coach refuses to shake hands

BNR and johnny d, what would you do in a college game?

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by AremRed

BNR and johnny d, what would you do in a college game?

This situation would never happen in a college game. I don't think it would even happen in a Juco game. For most coaches at the college level, coaching is how they make their living. They are too professional to pull a stunt like this, and if they are not, they would not have risen to the point of being a college head coach. If however, it ever did happen to me in a college game, I would treat him and the game exactly how I treat every other game I officiate. I would answer his legitimate questions, ignore his statements, and give him the same latitude I give every other coach. Afterwards, I would report the incident to the assignor and allow him to handle the situation from there.

[Ed Maeder]

Originally Posted by johnny d

This situation would never happen in a college game. I don't think it would even happen in a Juco game. For most coaches at the college level, coaching is how they make their living. They are too professional to pull a stunt like this, and if they are not, they would not have risen to the point of being a college head coach. If however, it ever did happen to me in a college game, I would treat him and the game exactly how I treat every other game I officiate. I would answer his legitimate questions, ignore his statements, and give him the same latitude I give every other coach. Afterwards, I would report the incident to the assignor and allow him to handle the situation from there.

Great answer! +2

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by johnny d

This situation would never happen in a college game.

It should never happen in a college game (or any game). Had it happen to my crew in a D-II game a few years back. Home Coach shook hands with me and one partner, but turned his back to walk away from our 3rd who he was mad at for something that happened earlier in the season.

I simply said "Coach, are you sure that this is the way you want to start things out tonight? You disrespect one of our crew, you disrespect us all."

He said "Fine with me."

He got very little conversation from any of us...gave us all 1's on the rating sheet (lowest he could give) and said we wouldn't communicate with him. My game report explained why...supervisor forwarded that report to AD and Conference Commissioner and he was reprimanded.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

It should never happen in a college game (or any game). Had it happen to my crew in a D-II game a few years back. Home Coach shook hands with me and one partner, but turned his back to walk away from our 3rd who he was mad at for something that happened earlier in the season.

I simply said "Coach, are you sure that this is the way you want to start things out tonight? You disrespect one of our crew, you disrespect us all."

He said "Fine with me."

He got very little conversation from any of us...gave us all 1's on the rating sheet (lowest he could give) and said we wouldn't communicate with him. My game report explained why...supervisor forwarded that report to AD and Conference Commissioner and he was reprimanded.

Exactly how I would handle it, and I would hope my conference admins would show me and my crew the same support.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Exactly how I would handle it, and I would hope my conference admins would show me and my crew the same support.

As you know and in college most of the time the Referee has to fill out a game report so that would go into the report for sure.

But if this took place at the high school level, we have what we call a "Special Report" form which would be anything that needed to be addressed in sportsmanship areas. This form is filled out online and it would go to the AD, Principal and Superintendent I believe. So it would be addressed by the offending party why this took place and how it would be corrected in the future. As officials we would not know what the end result is of that communication with the IHSA and school administration. And this document would go into the file of that coach and could be used like any other such "write-up" on an individual that is doing a job of any kind.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

BNR and johnny d, what would you do in a college game?

Wouldn't happen...remote chance it did they would also get no conversation for that game.

College coaches don't have time for that Harry high school crap.

Originally Posted by johnny d

This situation would never happen in a college game. I don't think it would even happen in a Juco game. For most coaches at the college level, coaching is how they make their living. They are too professional to pull a stunt like this, and if they are not, they would not have risen to the point of being a college head coach. If however, it ever did happen to me in a college game, I would treat him and the game exactly how I treat every other game I officiate. I would answer his legitimate questions, ignore his statements, and give him the same latitude I give every other coach. Afterwards, I would report the incident to the assignor and allow him to handle the situation from there.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Wouldn't happen...remote chance it did they would also get no conversation for that game.

College coaches don't have time for that Harry high school crap.

Funny cuz I saw this same thing happen last year at a D3 game. Coach was pissed off about something and hung out at the far end of the bench and kinda waved when the refs went to shake the coaches hands. It was pretty clear he was staying away from the refs. He ended being a PITA during the game.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Funny cuz I saw this same thing happen last year at a D3 game. Coach was pissed off about something and hung out at the far end of the bench and kinda waved when the refs went to shake the coaches hands. It was pretty clear he was staying away from the refs. He ended being a PITA during the game.

I would not take that as refusing to shake my hand, his wave is at least acknowledging our presence.

[biggravy]

Meh. Right or wrong I'm not obligated to converse with him. He's not getting any conversation with me.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Funny cuz I saw this same thing happen last year at a D3 game. Coach was pissed off about something and hung out at the far end of the bench and kinda waved when the refs went to shake the coaches hands. It was pretty clear he was staying away from the refs. He ended being a PITA during the game.

I guess this just goes to show that anything is possible at any level. I personally have never had this happen to me or seen this happen, nor have I ever heard of a college coach (or HS coach for that matter) pulling this kind of stunt from any official or assignor. I work in some leagues that are notorious for having coaches who can be PITAs, but I would be shocked if any of them even considered something as sophomoric as this. Like I said earlier though, the expectations at even lower level colleges are much higher, so I would be surprised if the coach at that D3 school is around for long.