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Chris Whitten Sun Dec 14, 2014 09:03am

Coach refuses to shake hands
 
What would you do if a coach shook hands with opposing captain and coach, but refused to shake your hand in the coaches/captains meeting before tip-off? I was involved in a previous game that did not end well for him.

BktBallRef Sun Dec 14, 2014 09:06am

Ignore it. Work the game as you would any other.

Be the bigger man.

Raymond Sun Dec 14, 2014 09:55am

Well, for that game, that's one HC who's not get any questions answered nor allowed any leeway if he steps outside the box and makes any type of comments.

RefCT Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:18am

Sportsmanship
 
I guess he can't truthfully answer the "we can expect good sportsmanship from everyone" question.

BillyMac Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:07am

Unfriend Him On Facebook ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 946786)
Ignore it. Work the game as you would any other. Be the bigger man.

Agree 100%.

JRutledge Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:15am

Tell him I refuse to answer any questions because of his display when he is asking a question and move on. Then see how all that works out for him.

Peace

Rich Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:32am

I may not explicitly say this to the coach, but that would end my communication for the game. And the rope would be really, really short.

Rich1 Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:03pm

No change
 
Do nothing different. If he wants to hold a grudge over a basketball game and behave immaturely then its on him. I'll call the game the same either way. Be professional, answer questions, make calls, and interact with him and his team just like you would if you had never met before. I also use this same philosophy when I have a coach or team that is "rumored" to be difficult. I may be more aware but I won't go in looking for problems.

JRutledge Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:13pm

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Originally Posted by Rich1 (Post 946801)
Do nothing different. If he wants to hold a grudge over a basketball game and behave immaturely then its on him. I'll call the game the same either way. Be professional, answer questions, make calls, and interact with him and his team just like you would if you had never met before. I also use this same philosophy when I have a coach or team that is "rumored" to be difficult. I may be more aware but I won't go in looking for problems.

You can be professional and tell a coach "what's up." They just decided to do something much earlier. I would not disrespect a coach, but he certainly would know why I feel the way I do. He would have to apologize, but I would not just not talk to a coach and he not know why. That is the ultimate disrespect to refuse to shake someone's hand and do so publicly. If this was any other profession, I would stop doing business with them or report it to them to the higher ups. I just have to deal with them for at most a couple of hours and then I go home. Coaches need to know their behavior has consequences.

Peace

BillyMac Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:35pm

Consequences ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 946803)
... report it to the higher ups.

Good idea. Here, in my little corner of Connecticut, the procedure would be to report the situation to our assigner, who would contact the school's athletic director.

bainsey Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:38pm

I would do nothing at the time, but keep it in the back of my head that he may become problematic.

Adam Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:49pm

The game started with a clean slate. The coach decided to be a prick, and it doesn't matter to me whether he did it at the coach's meeting or after the first foul call against his team. His actions for this game have determined the level of courtesy he will be given, which is pretty much nil. Obviously, it isn't going to affect how I'm going to call the game; but he's made it clear he isn't going to work with me if I need help dealing with a player or his bench. That's fine, I can go straight to the tools provided in the book.

Ed Maeder Sun Dec 14, 2014 03:25pm

Is this what officiating is about? Being vindictive. Work the game like any other and keep your emotions aside. We have to be bigger then that. Report and move on.

Rich Sun Dec 14, 2014 04:29pm

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Originally Posted by Ed Maeder (Post 946826)
Is this what officiating is about? Being vindictive. Work the game like any other and keep your emotions aside. We have to be bigger then that. Report and move on.

It's not vindictive. A coach decided he didn't wish to have a professional relationship. That's OK, but that just means I won't go out of my way to communicate with him.

Actually, I would be surprised at such behavior. Never had a coach act this way before a game.

jTheUmp Sun Dec 14, 2014 06:41pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 946829)
It's not vindictive. A coach decided he didn't wish to have a professional relationship. That's OK, but that just means I won't go out of my way to communicate with him.

Actually, I would be surprised at such behavior. Never had a coach act this way before a game.

I've had it happen a couple of times, although it was either a) youth wreck ball (back when I used to work youth wreck ball) or b) a JV game. Never happened at the varsity level.

Of course, in the case of the JV game, that coach had been served T in the two prior games I'd worked for his team (once by me, once by my partner). In the 3rd game, he opened the pregame conference with "Oh, it's you again" in a tone that basically said "I'm gonna get a T in this game also". And he did not disappoint. He also did not return as coach the following season.


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