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Old Fri Dec 12, 2014, 02:35pm
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My gut feeling is that once the officials allow the ball to become live for B's throw-in, their opportunity to call the violation by A2 is passed. However, I can't find a rule reference that explicitly puts a deadline on when the officials are allowed to make or change a judgment call. Any guidance?
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2014, 02:44pm
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My gut feeling is that once the officials allow the ball to become live for B's throw-in, their opportunity to call the violation by A2 is passed. However, I can't find a rule reference that explicitly puts a deadline on when the officials are allowed to make or change a judgment call. Any guidance?
I would say even before the ball becomes live, if you wait even so long as to after the ball goes through the hoop, you're probably too late, simply because of the problems a late whistle in this scenario would cause. Similar to if you were to wait on a last second, half court shot that was NOT released before the horn, if you wait until it goes in to make the call, you're going to be causing yourself problems. Either get it right away, or they got away with one
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2014, 02:45pm
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My gut feeling is that once the officials allow the ball to become live for B's throw-in, their opportunity to call the violation by A2 is passed. However, I can't find a rule reference that explicitly puts a deadline on when the officials are allowed to make or change a judgment call. Any guidance?
Same as if A1 had traveled while making a lay-up. You have to make the call when it happens, not after the opponent advances the ball to half-court.
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2014, 03:06pm
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I would say even before the ball becomes live, if you wait even so long as to after the ball goes through the hoop, you're probably too late, simply because of the problems a late whistle in this scenario would cause. Similar to if you were to wait on a last second, half court shot that was NOT released before the horn, if you wait until it goes in to make the call, you're going to be causing yourself problems. Either get it right away, or they got away with one
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Same as if A1 had traveled while making a lay-up. You have to make the call when it happens, not after the opponent advances the ball to half-court.
I certainly agree, and I don't think I'd ever make a call more than a second after I observe it, I'm just wondering if there's a rule reference that forbids the officials making or changing a decision after some defined deadline.
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2014, 03:51pm
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There are 5 correctable errors in Rule 2-10, this is not one of them.
  1. Failure to Award a merited FT
  2. Awarding an unmerited FT
  3. Permitting a wrong player to attempt a FT
  4. Attempting a FT at the wrong basket
  5. Erroneously counting or canceling a score

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Old Fri Dec 12, 2014, 05:16pm
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There are 5 correctable errors in Rule 2-10, this is not one of them.
  1. Failure to Award a merited FT
  2. Awarding an unmerited FT
  3. Permitting a wrong player to attempt a FT
  4. Attempting a FT at the wrong basket
  5. Erroneously counting or canceling a score
And all, but one, are about free throws.

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Old Fri Dec 12, 2014, 06:28pm
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And all, but one, are about free throws.

your HAND picture contains the following statement. this was on our test...

"ALL errors must be corrected before the second live ball"

its just not true. example--player fouled shooting a 3. wrong player goes to the line. that is the error. you bounce him the ball for first FT(live ball)....second FT(second live ball)...third free throw(3rd live ball)...

clock has not run so you can still correct the error...which is why rule says it must be corrected during the first dead ball after the clock has started..the question on the test did not say whether the clock was running or not. ALL errors do not have to be corrected before the second live ball...

sorry to bring that up here. actually, its Billy's fault for the drawing.
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:16pm
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Old Fri Dec 12, 2014, 10:01pm
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your HAND picture contains the following statement. this was on our test..."ALL errors must be corrected before the second live ball" its just not true. ..which is why rule says it must be corrected during the first dead ball after the clock has started...
BigCat is correct:

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