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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 01:10pm
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It is that clear cut. And if you don't think it is that clear cut from the very clear answer I gave, what answer do you think is going to bring anymore clarity?

Rule 3-5-3 specifically says "Arm sleeves, knee sleeves, lower leg sleeves and tights are permissible:" Arm sleeves are a separate piece of equipment, they are not a part of a t-shirt or undershirt.

Rule 3-5-6 specifically talks about undershirts, which is a single item that has to be a single, solid color. If the home team was wearing a white t-shirt that had black sleeves, then that is not a single color, it's multiple colors.

T-shirts and arm sleeves are 2 separate rules and 2 separate items of equipment.
The part in which I believe causing some ambiguity is in rule 3-5-3a that states "anything that is worn on the arm and/or leg us a sleeve, except a knee brace, and shall meet the color restrictions."

The rule says "anything." No where in there does it say except if attached to an undershirt. No where does it say that the undershirt rule takes priority over this rule. That is why I say it isn't clear cut.

Even in the undershirt rule is uses the word sleeves to define sleeves on a shirt. Also per the definition of sleeves as being anything worn on the arm. I feel it is reasonable that some could conclude that if a player had a blue undershirt with long blue sleeves on that all other players sleeves must match.
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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 03:21pm
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The part in which I believe causing some ambiguity is in rule 3-5-3a that states "anything that is worn on the arm and/or leg us a sleeve, except a knee brace, and shall meet the color restrictions."

The rule says "anything." No where in there does it say except if attached to an undershirt. No where does it say that the undershirt rule takes priority over this rule. That is why I say it isn't clear cut.

Even in the undershirt rule is uses the word sleeves to define sleeves on a shirt. Also per the definition of sleeves as being anything worn on the arm. I feel it is reasonable that some could conclude that if a player had a blue undershirt with long blue sleeves on that all other players sleeves must match.
You're making this way harder than it is. The "anything worn on the arm is a sleeve" deals only with the Allan Iverson shooting sleeves, and the compression sleeves that have the elbow pad in them. An undershirt with sleeves simply means a long sleeve shirt. It isn't hard to understand.

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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 03:38pm
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You're making this way harder than it is. The "anything worn on the arm is a sleeve" deals only with the Allan Iverson shooting sleeves, and the compression sleeves that have the elbow pad in them. An undershirt with sleeves simply means a long sleeve shirt. It isn't hard to understand.
Nice tone Guess the word anything means only somethings.
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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 07:09pm
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Allan Iverson shooting sleeves ...An undershirt .
Love the Allan Iverson reference. Also, it's Patrick Ewing undershirts.
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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 11:23am
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What about question one. Are the different sleeves on the undershirt not considered arm sleeves for the purpose of matching all other sleeves or are the required to meet the rules for undershirts and sleeves?
See post 2.

Undershirts are one rule.

Sleeves (arm and leg) are another (in FED; in NCAAW they are two rules)

Bands (head and wrist) are another.
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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 11:25am
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What about question one. Are the different sleeves on the undershirt not considered arm sleeves for the purpose of matching all other sleeves or are the required to meet the rules for undershirts and sleeves?
if it is an undershirt it can be long sleeve in high school but it must be predominant color of uniform.(color of the neutral zone i think they call it) both sleeves on undershirt have to be same length. entirely different rule for "sleeves" as pointed out. thx

undershirts have sleeves... but their not sleeves…that seems fitting for fashion police rules...
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Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 11:29am
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... undershirts have sleeves... but their not sleeves…that seems fitting for fashion police rules...
Well stated. Stupid NFHS.
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Well stated. Stupid NFHS.
Hey, we do NOT need the Fashion Police graphic or the State of Connecticut graphic attached to every freaking message you post.

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