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Old Fri Dec 05, 2014, 04:09pm
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Context: A single timer and a single scorer may be used if they are trained personnel and acceptable to the referee.

Would you both agree that it means "One person keeping the book, and running the clock."?
Is that on a current year's test? The wording was in the book several years ago, but is not there now.
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Old Fri Dec 05, 2014, 04:11pm
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On this year's Part II.
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Old Fri Dec 05, 2014, 11:30pm
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Is that on a current year's test? The wording was in the book several years ago, but is not there now.
I went into my attic and pulled out the 2002 -2003 book. 2-1-1: "The officials shall be a referee and an umpire or a referee and two umpires who shall be assisted by two timers and by two scorers. A single timer and a single scorer may be used if they are trained personnel acceptable to the referee."

By 2009 -2010 that wording was gone (I didn't check anywhere in between.)

Note that the rule also says "The official's uniform shall be a black-and-white striped shirt, black pants, shoes and socks." No mention of a belt.
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Old Sat Dec 06, 2014, 12:08am
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Note that the rule also says "The official's uniform shall be a black-and-white striped shirt, black pants, shoes and socks." No mention of a belt.
So where do I get the black and white striped pants, shoes, and belt?
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Old Sat Dec 06, 2014, 10:46am
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Appropriate ???

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So where do I get the black and white striped pants, shoes, and belt?
Would this be better: "The official's uniform shall be a black-and-white striped shirt; black pants, shoes and socks." (semicolon replaces comma)?



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No mention of a belt.
So I guess that the belt can be any color. Cool. Also, I guess that officials are required to go "commando".

In the original post, the wording is not a clear as it could be. As a retired teacher, if I gave a poorly worded question, like this, on a science test, the students would be all over me if I marked it wrong. Test question writing is a science, and not everybody is good at it.
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Old Sat Dec 06, 2014, 02:28pm
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Test question writing is a science, and not everybody is good at it.
Agreed, but sometimes I think the NFHS test writers purposely write questions poorly to generate discussion.
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I missed this question because the rule referenced didn't say anything about a single scorer/bookkeeper was ok if acceptable to the official. Sounds like they were asking about the old rule? It sounded like something that should be true, but the rule they referenced said nothing about it so I felt like I had to say false.
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Old Sat Dec 06, 2014, 07:10am
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..No mention of a belt...
Couldn't resist, huh?
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Old Sat Dec 06, 2014, 09:48am
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I went into my attic and pulled out the 2002 -2003 book. 2-1-1: "The officials shall be a referee and an umpire or a referee and two umpires who shall be assisted by two timers and by two scorers. A single timer and a single scorer may be used if they are trained personnel acceptable to the referee."

By 2009 -2010 that wording was gone (I didn't check anywhere in between.)

Note that the rule also says "The official's uniform shall be a black-and-white striped shirt, black pants, shoes and socks." No mention of a belt.

Bob:

You must be channeling your inner Milton Berle (or is it Bob Hope), by stealing my material, .

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