Gender Wars....

[DRJ1960]

Originally Posted by Rich

So, is your association willing to do the right thing?

If, by "the right thing", you mean Associational Suicide (which would be the result of disregarding the "request" from the Schools) then I would think not.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

If, by "the right thing", you mean Associational Suicide (which would be the result of disregarding the "request" from the Schools) then I would think not.

So you're going to comply? Do you really think this will preserve the relationship with the schools? Do you really think the officials in the association will be ok with this?

[BigCat]

[QUOTE=DRJ1960;944402]If, by "the right thing", you mean Associational Suicide (which would be the result of disregarding the "request" from the Schools) then I would think not.[/QUOTE

Here's my take on "associational suicide".

1. -tell schools women are qualified and we are sending them...no more or no less women than in past years. Seems like the right thing to do. But if you do the schools may change associations.

2. Go along with schools and tell your women officials they're qualified but not going because they are women. See Covington v IAABO. Can be found on net. Covimgton, woman official, claims discrimination for not being assigned mens games. Maybe your women will just walk away and forget it. However, if they don't, your association will be a defendant since you have involvement in assigning.

The commissioner has put you folks in quite a trick bag. I think I'd try door number one if I were you...actually see earlier post on what to do. And do it because It is the right thing to do...

[Raymond]

If they would leave because of that, then they are going to go anyway.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If they would leave because of that, then they are going to go anyway.

I agree. And if they wanted to they just should have done it without saying this in the minutes of a meeting. Commissioner has put schools in the same trick bag...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I agree. And if they wanted to they just should have done it without saying this in the minutes of a meeting. Commissioner has put schools in the same trick bag...

The school didn't say it in the meeting. The schools still maintain plausible deniability. Frankly, if one must do business with people like this to stay in business, it's probably not worth the headache. You can't trust them.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Adam

The school didn't say it in the meeting. The schools still maintain plausible deniability. Frankly, if one must do business with people like this to stay in business, it's probably not worth the headache. You can't trust them.

I'm assuming the schools voted on and hired the commissioner. When he speaks and when he acts he is them. --Which is why you don't want to hire knuckleheads to represent you. Nothing is ever as clear/cut and dry in these situations.

What I imagine the schools would say is "our commissioner, he's a little round ( as in not sharp). We sent him there to say we needed better officials for our games..don't send us officials who aren't up to job...." Commissioner may say I meant don't send any official including those women because they are not up to job. Not because of being a woman...

May come down to whether the women in the association are competent--and if somebody decides to take it on.

I guess what I would like to think is that if a school or group of schools said "don't send BigCat, because we just don't want cats,"- someone in my association, my association as a group, would stand up for me. try to help me. One for all all for one sort of deal....
I've never been a fan of "every man for himself."

[JRutledge]

That is the problem. These kinds of relationships are the ultimate problem. So glad we do not have them here. But we seem to be the exception.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I'm assuming the schools voted on and hired the commissioner.

You may be right. We don't have a commissioner here, but I've worked in an area that did before. The term is going to be defined differently, and the occupant selected differently, around the country.

That said, I think the best response would be to simply write them a letter:

Dear sirs,
We have received your request that we only send male officials to your boys basketball contests. After discussing it with our attorneys, we have come to the conclusion that it is simply not a lawful request so we must respectfully decline your request.

Sincerely,

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

If, by "the right thing", you mean Associational Suicide (which would be the result of disregarding the "request" from the Schools) then I would think not.

How many schools are we talking about?

Are they private schools? Perhaps that's been answered and I missed it.

Where are they going if they leave your association?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

How many schools are we talking about?

Are they private schools? Perhaps that's been answered and I missed it.

Where are they going if they leave your association?

They would go to my HS association which has about 75% of the work in that area currently.

If you read through the thread just for his and my responses you'll see pertinent info.