Gender Wars....

[Mark Padgett]

Contact your local chapter of the ACLU. They'll love to take on this fight for you and probably at no charge.

[JRutledge]

All I can say is that it is very uncommon that any female works a boys basketball game at the varsity level. But on the flip side women get a lot of great opportunities and girls or NCAAW basketball usually faster than men at the same level of experience or opportunities. And it is not uncommon either that anyone that works a lot of girls do not get a lot of boys opportunities either in the regular season or post season. So I guess it would be hard here to complain of who you send to a game.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

All I can say is that it is very uncommon that any female works a boys basketball game at the varsity level. But on the flip side women get a lot of great opportunities and girls or NCAAW basketball usually faster than men at the same level of experience or opportunities. And it is not uncommon either that anyone that works a lot of girls do not get a lot of boys opportunities either in the regular season or post season. So I guess it would be hard here to complain of who you send to a game.

Peace

I would not hesitate to assign women to a game. And a coach telling me this would get a response of "are you serious?" followed by a crew of three women.

And yes, I assign varsity basketball for 20 schools. With women on staff that work boys games.

[zm1283]

If women are good enough to work in the NBA and college football, they're good enough to work high school basketball games.

[Adam]

I cannot express enough how badly I want to know how this turns out.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

I would not hesitate to assign women to a game. And a coach telling me this would get a response of "are you serious?" followed by a crew of three women.

And yes, I assign varsity basketball for 20 schools. With women on staff that work boys games.

And that is fine and how it should be, but because of how many women get college opportunties, it is really a matter of availablity as anything. I just spoke with one of my female officiating friends and she could give a darn about HS games. And when she does work, she almost does not know the diffferences. As you have seen here, those that work Women's college basketball often think highly of their level and seem to think everything is done correctly at that level. So if those do not make themselves available. And when the check is greater and the opportunity is more realistic, at least here they do not stick around to work those levels very long. But I would work with a good woman official over a bad male official any day. And I also think many of them do not want the hassel of what it can bring either. And yes, it would be somewhat of a hassel for them if they are already coming into a situation with those attitudes of females working those games.

Peace

[Raymond]

One thing: In Virginia if these are private schools, there is nothing the state body (VHSL) can do.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

One thing: In Virginia if these are private schools, there is nothing the state body (VHSL) can do.

The NCHSAA would not have any jurisdiction either.

However, there is no requirement that an NCHSAA regional supervisor (assignor) has to assign private schools while those same private schools are instructed that they have to use NCHSAA officials.

Advantage: Officials and supervisor

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And that is fine and how it should be, but because of how many women get college opportunties, it is really a matter of availablity as anything. I just spoke with one of my female officiating friends and she could give a darn about HS games. And when she does work, she almost does not know the diffferences. As you have seen here, those that work Women's college basketball often think highly of their level and seem to think everything is done correctly at that level. So if those do not make themselves available. And when the check is greater and the opportunity is more realistic, at least here they do not stick around to work those levels very long. But I would work with a good woman official over a bad male official any day. And I also think many of them do not want the hassel of what it can bring either. And yes, it would be somewhat of a hassel for them if they are already coming into a situation with those attitudes of females working those games.
Peace

I highlighted the irrelevant parts.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

I highlighted the irrelevant parts.

That is not irrelevant. It is a real issue. Because around here, it would be hard to find 3 female officials that are available to work many HS games.

Peace

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is not irrelevant. It is a real issue. Because around here, it would be hard to find 3 female officials that are available to work many HS games.

Peace

With all due respect, the same argument (gauging interest in a vaccuum, etc.) could be and has been made in regard to the traditionally underrepresented gender in (insert anything here). (-See pre-1972 for anti-Title IX arguments; e.g. "We'd be hard pressed to find 6 teams with enough participants to field a girls' league, therefore, this isn't really an issue in these parts.")

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is not irrelevant. It is a real issue. Because around here, it would be hard to find 3 female officials that are available to work many HS games.

Peace

My point is it's not at all relevant to whether the request noted in the OP is reasonable, absurd, or somewhere in between. The actual availability of the officials doesn't matter to the schools making the stupid request.

[jTheUmp]

IMHO, it doesn't really matter if your association (or mine, or anyone's) has 3 female officials available to work a particular game in a particular place on a particular night.

What matters is the fact that one or more schools (or individual administrators in those schools) would even make this request, even "off the record." It's 2014, not 1914...

[BoomerSooner]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

IMHO, it doesn't really matter if your association (or mine, or anyone's) has 3 female officials available to work a particular game in a particular place on a particular night.

What matters is the fact that one or more schools (or individual administrators in those schools) would even make this request, even "off the record." It's 2014, not 1914...

Why do we, myself included, still make this statement??? I was reading it and clicked to me that the type of thinking that we're discussing was just as wrong in 1914 as it is in 2014. It was accepted much more widely then, but so was slavery in 1814. That didn't make slavery right then either. The problem isn't that people haven't gotten with the times, it is that they haven't gotten the message at all.

That rant aside, there are really two ways to deal with this:
1. The court of public opinion - go to the news with it. or
2. The court - a decent law student could probably handle the case