Sunglasses Technical Foul

[Rich]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I too probably would have whacked him earlier. Assistants are to be seen, not heard.

Not in my little corner of VA, unfortunately.

Why would ANYONE take crap in a scrimmage where they aren't being paid? We're doing them a favor.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Why would ANYONE take crap in a scrimmage where they aren't being paid? We're doing them a favor.

We work them free here, they appreciate it. I'm pretty sure any crap would be shut down by the HC before I had to deal with it.

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by rich

why would anyone take crap in a scrimmage where they aren't being paid? We're doing them a favor.

+1

[kstiles99]

No, I am not second guessing the T, I am just asking your opinions on this situation... I mean how many Ts have you given for an AC throwing the shades?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

Why would ANYONE take crap in a scrimmage where they aren't being paid? We're doing them a favor.

To give back and show I'm not above it all.

I believe my HS associations contracts are written that schools are afforded a set amount of free scrimmages.

[grunewar]

We are "required to work ~ 4 free scrimmages, and I don't mind it one bit.

I enjoy prepping for the season and make my $ later in the year.

Say what you will.

PS - I get to pick my games/schools and don't have to travel far. I truly love my avocation.

[Rich]

I love working, too, but I'm not going to allow myself to get worked in a scrimmage.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by grunewar

We are "required to work ~ 4 free scrimmages, and I don't mind it one bit.

I enjoy prepping for the season and make my $ later in the year.

Say what you will.

PS - I get to pick my games/schools and don't have to travel far. I truly love my avocation.

Please explain how an independent contractor can be "required" to work anything, especially for free.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

To give back and show I'm not above it all.

It is one thing to willing volunteer your time. It is a something significantly different for the schools, association, or assignor to expect or demand people donate their time.

[DRJ1960]

I have been told (you know how that works) that Central VA schools may pay a travel fee for scrimmages and it goes into our associations kitty to balance out the schools we "low bid" during the season. That way all regular games pay the same fee.
Theoretically....

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by johnny d

It is one thing to willing volunteer your time. It is a something significantly different for the schools, association, or assignor to expect or demand people donate their time.

It's in the contracts, part of negotiations. No strong arming involved.

[JRutledge]

I still have not gotten an answer yet to this question. Are these regular games or game like situations cloaked in a pre-season event? Because a scrimmage here is a inter-squad contest which is often very informal and not very heated. The only time I have ever thought of giving a T in any of these type of games, was as a gag that the coaches were in on the gag. I cannot even imagine a coach getting that upset over any call. And if they got upset, a T would not come to mind.

Also, some pay. Others do not. And usually we bring multiple officials to them so the guys can work and get to see ball they normally might not see. We use these as training opportunities more than anything. That is why I cannot understand a coach getting that upset over all call.

Peace

[kstiles99]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I still have not gotten an answer yet to this question. Are these regular games or game like situations cloaked in a pre-season event? Because a scrimmage here is a inter-squad contest which is often very informal and not very heated. The only time I have ever thought of giving a T in any of these type of games, was as a gag that the coaches were in on the gag. I cannot even imagine a coach getting that upset over any call. And if they got upset, a T would not come to mind.

Also, some pay. Others do not. And usually we bring multiple officials to them so the guys can work and get to see ball they normally might not see. We use these as training opportunities more than anything. That is why I cannot understand a coach getting that upset over all call.

Peace

Well, on this particular day, I worked 4 games. This was the last game of the night and according to the crowd and the coaches that were waiting for their games to start, I was sucking. So naturally, near the end of my last game of the day, I'm worn out. Yes these we're two different teams with two coaches both as energetic and wild as could be toward their players and my partner and I. But I didnt have problems with either HC. This was probably just an AC with anger issues....
One of the reasons I started this thread was to hear opinions of giving technicals in scrimmages and preseason. Assignors seem to not like it. Veterans tell us it's a bad idea.. But it's what an official would do in a regular contest. Why is there a difference between a T in a scrimmage vs. a T in a game?

And to settle it, no thiese games did not pay, but guess who got free pizza before he got ran out of the gym

[Raymond]

No T from me, just insistence that I won't continue without AC leaving.

[JRutledge]

Now the situation makes a little more sense to me. Teams cannot play each other before the actual season starts. So we have no such conflict like what was described.

Peace