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Old Wed Nov 05, 2014, 09:04am
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Agree in theory, but how about a NFHS rule citation?
I also agree. Once "deemed" a try your covered by rule to let him catch dribble etc. I may deem every thrown ball that hits backboard a try. Even when they are obviously a pass...I understand the practical way to deal with it.

The play we are talking about though says it is a pass. The play is not deeming it a try. It's says it is ok because it is part of teams equipment...I don't see where that comes from in the actual rules is all I'm saying.
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Old Wed Nov 05, 2014, 05:15pm
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It's says it is OK because it is part of teams equipment.
So ... if I'm a dribbler, and I end my dribble, I could the bounce the ball off my headband (equipment), allow the ball to fall to the floor, and legally pick the ball up. Can I now legally start a new dribble?
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Old Wed Nov 05, 2014, 06:27pm
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So ... if I'm a dribbler, and I end my dribble, I could the bounce the ball off my headband (equipment), allow the ball to fall to the floor, and legally pick the ball up. Can I now legally start a new dribble?
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Old Wed Nov 05, 2014, 08:43pm
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So ... if I'm a dribbler, and I end my dribble, I could the bounce the ball off my headband (equipment), allow the ball to fall to the floor, and legally pick the ball up. Can I now legally start a new dribble?
IF you end your dribble, then pass the ball off your headband and it bounces away I'm going to call a violation when you pick it up. As I said earlier I don't know where it comes from or why they declared it was ok to catch a pass off the board after ending the dribble. It's not in the rule book and doesn't make sense to say "equipment." I will allow the catch off the backboard because the exact play is in the casebook. Your headband play isn't...yet.

P.s. Doesn't say much for your teammates that you have to pass it off your head rather than to them😊
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Doesn't say much for your teammates that you have to pass it off your head rather than to them.
Me, to the player, "That's using your head".
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Old Thu Nov 06, 2014, 07:12am
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I will allow the catch off the backboard because the exact play is in the casebook.
Then will you allow said player to start a new dribble?
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Old Thu Nov 06, 2014, 09:27am
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Then will you allow said player to start a new dribble?
If it is an obvious pass off of the board, really obvious that it is a pass, I wouldn't let him dribble. RULES to me say he shouldn't be able to catch it as we discussed…case book play says he can. rules as we know and you have pointed out don't allow player to dribble again. case book play doesn't say he can do that. having said all that...

if i can call the throw off the board a try I'm going to do that. then when he catches and dribbles there is rule support for it...
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If it is an obvious pass off of the board, really obvious that it is a pass, I wouldn't let him dribble. RULES to me say he shouldn't be able to catch it as we discussed…case book play says he can. rules as we know and you have pointed out don't allow player to dribble again. case book play doesn't say he can do that. having said all that...

if i can call the throw off the board a try I'm going to do that. then when he catches and dribbles there is rule support for it...
This seems to me the right approach.

He'd practically have to yell "I'm passing" before I'd consider it a pass, though.
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Old Thu Nov 06, 2014, 03:34pm
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If it is an obvious pass off of the board, really obvious that it is a pass, I wouldn't let him dribble. RULES to me say he shouldn't be able to catch it as we discussed…case book play says he can. rules as we know and you have pointed out don't allow player to dribble again. case book play doesn't say he can do that. having said all that...

if i can call the throw off the board a try I'm going to do that. then when he catches and dribbles there is rule support for it...
Does the case really say that though? It says that it can be used but it doesn't specify that a new dribble can begin.
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Old Thu Nov 06, 2014, 03:41pm
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Does the case really say that though? It says that it can be used but it doesn't specify that a new dribble can begin.

the case play says a pass can be caught off of the back board because it is the players own "equipment." you are right that is all it says. i don't think the rules really support that conclusion but the case book play says he can catch it. the rules also would not let him dribble again.

but, if i say the throw off of the back board was a "try" and not a pass then he can catch it and then dribble it again etc. it becomes a rebound…

if i can call it a try that is what i would do….
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