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1) With new rule on the release on FT..seeing many more lane violations. 2) Increase in double whistles..not sure why...people calling out of Primary? 3) Coaches complaining about Double Whistles...example: one ref has a hold other has a held ball. Comments and summer observations that you have seen?? |
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Have not experienced #2 or #3 at all this summer. If/when it does happen I hope we will have pregamed to hold off on giving signals until we at least make some eye contact or otherwise communicate.
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A lot of officials really do not hustle at all in the summertime.
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Chicken Or Egg ???
Happens to me at least once every high school varsity season. Simple fix. Get together. Which came first? "I saw your hold, but I saw my held ball first."
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What if the Hold happened first? It only matters whose whistle blew first?
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2. We talking 2 or 3 person? 2 man requires calling out of your primary because the angles aren't that great. Calling out of primary doing 3 person might be just due to fewer experienced officials working summer ball. 3. Could be due to calling out of primary, but probably due to not knowing who has the best look at a play and being patient to let that person see the whole play start, develop, and finish. I called one just yesterday going away from me at C where I should have let Lead call the OOB instead of me call a foul. |
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Also, the whistle seldom causes the ball to become dead (Basketball Rules Fundamental #16) . The foul, or violation, causes the ball to become dead, so it's not the first whistle that determines the call, it's the first action that causes the ball to become dead. Some officials have a longer "lag time" between the action and the whistle than others.
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Let It Hit Goes The Way Of The Buggy Whip ...
Good point. It was probably easier to "time" the hit.
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1) Seems odd. I would expect to see less on the release. 2) Ball watching. 3) Expected if you have double whistles with different calls.
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Inquiring Minds Want To Know ...
So you believe that it's easier for a player on a marked lane space to "time" a shooter's release (with all different types of shooting styles) then it is to "time" when a released ball will hit the rim, or the backboard?
I disagree with you. I like the rule change, but I think that we will have more, maybe not a lot more, but more players entering early with the change. We really need to be on our toes with the rule change.
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Does this make sense to you all? I know this isn't always true, but for the held ball to have occured first, this would mean that one of the officials didn't see the held ball. Given that held balls are pretty obvious to just about everyone in the gym, how likely is it that the held ball occured before the hold? |
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