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Old Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:02am
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If the player in white heaves it toward the wrong basket and the buzzer goes off while the ball is in the air does it count if it goes in?
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Old Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:09am
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If the player in white heaves it toward the wrong basket and the buzzer goes off while the ball is in the air does it count if it goes in?
Rhetorical questions, or quizzing our newbies?

I know you know the answer to this.
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Old Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:22pm
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Rhetorical questions, or quizzing our newbies?

I know you know the answer to this.

Actually, I see two different ways to look at it. What are you saying?
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Old Thu Jul 10, 2014, 05:45pm
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Actually, I see two different ways to look at it. What are you saying?
A try is only at one's own basket.
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Old Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:20pm
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A try is only at one's own basket.
5.2.1 says that when the officials allow the teams to go in the wrong direction all points scored count as if they had gone in the right direction. When the officials allowed the wrong team to complete the throw-in and didn't blow it dead, as far as I'm concerned, they "allowed the teams to go the wrong way."
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Old Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:35pm
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5.2.1 says that when the officials allow the teams to go in the wrong direction all points scored count as if they had gone in the right direction. When the officials allowed the wrong team to complete the throw-in and didn't blow it dead, as far as I'm concerned, they "allowed the teams to go the wrong way."
That applies if the teams started in the wrong direction, not when get disoriented in the middle of action. Under your theory then Blue should been credited with the 2 points White's basket.
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Old Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:38pm
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5.2.1 says that when the officials allow the teams to go in the wrong direction all points scored count as if they had gone in the right direction. When the officials allowed the wrong team to complete the throw-in and didn't blow it dead, as far as I'm concerned, they "allowed the teams to go the wrong way."
That's only for starting the wrong direction at the beginning of a half, not the play in the OP.
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Old Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:45pm
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The example given is at the beginning of the game. Why would that not apply if it happened at some other point? What do you do if you discover in the midst of the proceedings that the teams are going the wrong way and you don't know when they started?
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Old Fri Jul 11, 2014, 06:12am
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5.2.1 says ....
5.2.1 SITUATION E: During the pregame practice period, the visiting team
properly uses the east goal and the home team the west goal. The officials, by
mistake, allow the jumpers to face the wrong direction to start the game. A1 controls
the tap by tapping the ball back to A2. A2, realizing that he/she had warmed
up at the basket behind A1, dribbles to that basket and scores an uncontested
basket. RULING: Score the basket for Team A. The officials should stop the game
and emphasize to both teams the proper direction. The mistake is an official's
error by allowing A1 and B1 to face the wrong direction; not a correctable error.

5.2.1 SITUATION F: During the pregame practice period, the visiting team
properly uses the east goal and the home team the west goal. The officials, by
mistake, allow the jumpers to face the wrong direction to start the game. Several
baskets are scored before it is recognized that both teams are throwing the ball
into the opponent’s basket. RULING: All points scored count as if the teams had
gone the right direction and scored in their own basket. Once the mistake is recognized,
play shall continue with each team attempting to score in its own basket.
(4-5-4)
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Old Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:33am
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If the player in white heaves it toward the wrong basket and the buzzer goes off while the ball is in the air does it count if it goes in?
This scenario was taught in my training several years ago. It stood out as one of the few scenarios that I was completely unaware of as a player. But it makes sense -- not a try for goal, so treat it like a pass; ball is dead -- no basket. Same thing if the player driving for a layup at the wrong basket is fouled while attempting a shot at the wrong basket; not a shooting foul.
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Old Fri Jul 11, 2014, 07:30am
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If the player in white heaves it toward the wrong basket and the buzzer goes off while the ball is in the air does it count if it goes in?
No points given, ball is dead when horn goes off unless on a shot.
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