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bainsey Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:47am

Slight lapse of focus....
 
Got this from the Basketball Referee Facebook group. It speaks for itself.

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HokiePaul Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:57am

saved by the bell ... I wonder how long that would have gone on for if the quarter hadn't expired.

SNIPERBBB Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:17am

What is FIBA's protocol for a wrong basket?

bwburke94 Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:44pm

Reset to ~5.6 seconds, blue ball?

Pantherdreams Wed Jul 09, 2014 01:06pm

16.2.2

If a player accidentally scores a field goal in his team’s basket, the goal counts 2
points and shall be recorded as having been scored by the captain of the opposing
team on the playing court.

BillyMac Wed Jul 09, 2014 04:31pm

Before The Buzzer ???
 
Backcourt violation?

JetMetFan Thu Jul 10, 2014 05:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 937526)
Backcourt violation?

From what I can tell the violation coincided with the on-screen clock hitting 0:00. Move along, nothing to see here...

Had this happen in a BV game two seasons ago ('12-13) after a missed FT. B1 got the rebound and - realizing he was wide open - scored into the wrong basket. Happily my partner and I shut it down before things got completely out of hand, i.e., before Team A completed the throw-in.

I even remembered to tell the scorer the goal wasn't credited to anyone on Team A! :D

just another ref Thu Jul 10, 2014 07:02am

If the player in white heaves it toward the wrong basket and the buzzer goes off while the ball is in the air does it count if it goes in?

Raymond Thu Jul 10, 2014 07:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 937549)
If the player in white heaves it toward the wrong basket and the buzzer goes off while the ball is in the air does it count if it goes in?

Rhetorical questions, or quizzing our newbies?

I know you know the answer to this.

HokiePaul Thu Jul 10, 2014 07:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 937549)
If the player in white heaves it toward the wrong basket and the buzzer goes off while the ball is in the air does it count if it goes in?

This scenario was taught in my training several years ago. It stood out as one of the few scenarios that I was completely unaware of as a player. But it makes sense -- not a try for goal, so treat it like a pass; ball is dead -- no basket. Same thing if the player driving for a layup at the wrong basket is fouled while attempting a shot at the wrong basket; not a shooting foul.

Altor Thu Jul 10, 2014 07:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 937526)
Backcourt violation?

If you're going to go there, shouldn't you have a delay of game warning at the time of the throw in?

Bad Zebra Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altor (Post 937552)
If you're going to go there, shouldn't you have a delay of game warning at the time of the throw in?

That's what I was thinking.

TriggerMN Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:06am

I don't care what the book says to do after the goal is scored in the wrong basket. Stop play, award the goal properly at the table, and have an endline throw-in to the correct team. That's going to clean up all the extra confusion.

Adam Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by TriggerMN (Post 937563)
I don't care what the book says to do after the goal is scored in the wrong basket. Stop play, award the goal properly at the table, and have an endline throw-in to the correct team. That's going to clean up all the extra confusion.

Agreed, I have never had this happen where the proper team began the throw in after the goal. Just stop the game, make sure everything gets scored properly, and set them on their way pointed in the proper direction.

BillyMac Thu Jul 10, 2014 02:55pm

Archives ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TriggerMN (Post 937563)
I don't care what the book says to do after the goal is scored in the wrong basket ...

There's got to be a caseplay, or an interpretation, for this situation, but I can't find it. Where's Nevadaref when you need him?

This (below) is as close as I can find:

A SPECIFIC UNSPORTING ACT
10.1.8 SITUATION: Immediately following a goal or free throw by Team A, A1
inbounds the ball to A2 and A2 subsequently throws the ball through A’s basket.
RULING: The following procedure has been adopted to handle this specific situation
if it is recognized before the opponents gain control or before the next
throw-in begins: (a) charge Team A with an unsporting technical foul; (b) assess
a delay-of-game warning for interfering with the ball after a goal; (c) cancel the
field goal; (d) cancel any common foul(s) committed and any non-flagrant foul
against A2 in the act of shooting; and (e) put “consumed” time back on the clock.
COMMENT: If there is no doubt the throw-in was a result of confusion, the entire
procedure would be followed except no unsporting team technical foul would be
charged. A team technical would be assessed if the team had received a previous
delay warning. This procedure shall not be used in any other throw-in situation in
which an official administers the throw-in and a mistake allows the wrong team
to inbound the ball. (4-47-3; 7-6-6; 10-1-5d)


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