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Old Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:06pm
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I was a clinician at a college officiating camp being held in conjunction with a HS team camp. One coach (up by 20 points) was complaining about all the "touch" fouls. I tried tell him that the new rules specifically spell out that these are fouls, but that explanation didn't mean much to him.

I'm quite sure he'll be earning a couple T's early in season before he finally gets it.
I had a coach this weekend who tried to complain to me about one of the officials. I told him he would've gotten a technical from me, so he should be happy he was dealing with that official.

He didn't like that.
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Old Mon Jun 30, 2014, 01:00pm
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This rule + camps with HS coaches = Complaining. It's going to happen, more so with BV coaches. GV coaches, presumably, watch/pay attention to NCAAW basketball so they're very aware of how strictly the guidelines were enforced. The best answer I hear from clinicians is, "Coach, this is what's going to happen in the regular season. Consider yourself lucky. You get a chance to work out any issues now."

I dealt with it on the GV level in NYC this past season due to the code differences between boys & girls. How those games went depended on my partner. If they also worked NCAAW it was easy. We pretty much used it as practice. If the other person didn't work NCAAW they needed a little prodding. As long as I kept up with it they were pretty much forced to follow along.

I only had one issue with a coach and that was in a Christmas tourney where the visitors were from NJ. That coach kept complaining about "touch fouls" and his "kids would all foul out." Ironically, the home team had three players foul out. His team only lost one.
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Old Mon Jun 30, 2014, 02:06pm
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...If they also worked NCAAW it was easy. We pretty much used it as practice. If the other person didn't work NCAAW they needed a little prodding....
Anyone who is already working NCAA-M also should already be used to the new HS rules.
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Several camps and a bunch of clinics thus far yield the observation that most officials "got the memo" and all clinicians prompted compliance. Those players who "chested up" and played good defense on the perimeter slightly outnumbered those teams of "handsy" players who got foul after foul after foul. With no tally of individual personal fouls as a curb, they just kept at it until the early bonus situations wasted their valuable game-like scrimmage time with one-and-ones.
Will likely be better once the season starts and they're sitting on the bench early.
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I found it interesting that the NCAAW side defines post player differently than ball handler. I might have the terms messed up, but the essence is this, if a post player, with the ball, has their back to the basket, they are not considered a "ball handler" until they face the basket.

Meanwhile, on the NCAAM side, we consider anyone with the ball a ball handler, so if a post player has the ball, then hands off by the defense, or you're getting a foul.

I'll be interested to see how the new high school interpretation deals with this.
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