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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:05am
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I focused as much on the call in this case as I did on who blew their whistle and the mechanics. Thoughts on whether this should have been a double whistle?


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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:12am
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Thoughts on whether this should have been a double whistle?
But it was a double whistle?
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:38am
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But it was a double whistle?
I think he is suggesting that the lead should have not had a double on this since the fouling defender was coming from the C's primary....and I'd agree.
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 02:49am
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I think he is suggesting that the lead should have not had a double on this since the fouling defender was coming from the C's primary....and I'd agree.
Ah, I see. Correct, should be single whistle here from C.
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 09:27am
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I have no problem with the double whistle. Something needs to be called here and the Lead allowed the Center to take the call. I would have little problem with this situation.

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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:11am
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To me, since the defender involved in the play is a secondary defender, it's okay that the Lead has a whistle. If that defender had come from underneath - in the key - it would be more easily understood, especially because the Lead is across the key.
Certainly, it's best that the Center take the call.

On another note, this is a really close block/charge call. Does anyone have it as a charge?
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:25am
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On another note, this is a really close block/charge call. Does anyone have it as a charge?
Yes, I did. I had it as a PC while watching at full speed.
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2014, 10:26am
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This is a really close block/charge call. Does anyone have it as a charge?
It's close, about as close as it gets. I see the defender's feet possibly getting there first but her body may still be inertially moving forward as contact is made. I like the block call, but I could live with a player control foul, especially in real time.

Something had to be called here. It's a train wreak. You can't avoid sounding the whistle because your not sure what to call (a common rookie mistake). Sometimes a strong wrong call is better than a no call. In calls like this you'll be right, by educated guessing, about fifty percent of the time. If you don't sound your whistle, in situations like this, you'll be wrong one-hundred percent of the time.

I can't comment on the three man mechanics, remember, Connecticut is The Land That Time Forgot.

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Yes, I did. I had it as a PC while watching at full speed.
I did as well. And I have a PC foul at slow speed. It looks like the defender even stops the moment before contact.

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On another note, this is a really close block/charge call. Does anyone have it as a charge?
No...defender never stopped moving forward. Remember, it is about the movement of the body, not the feet. The feet are only part of LGP.
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To me, since the defender involved in the play is a secondary defender, it's okay that the Lead has a whistle.
With where that defender came from, I don't agree. The L had 2 other defenders who could have easily become part of the play to look at on his side of (or in) the lane.
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If that defender had come from underneath - in the key - it would be more easily understood, especially because the Lead is across the key.
Certainly, it's best that the Center take the call.
Agree....if the defender that rotated to help was form the L's area, L should be first on it.
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I see no reason for a whistle from the lead. And I have a player control foul.
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I see no reason for a whistle from the lead. And I have a player control foul.
Agree. A classic case of the lead "reaching across" on a call that's in the center's lap. Center had an immediate whistle so it's not like it's a bail out/save call. All that being said, it's not like the double whistle looked bad. Only people that would question the actions of the L and C are other officials.

...and I had PC.
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