Block/PC (video)

[Raymond]

I see no reason for a whistle from the lead. And I have a player control foul.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I see no reason for a whistle from the lead. And I have a player control foul.

Agree. A classic case of the lead "reaching across" on a call that's in the center's lap. Center had an immediate whistle so it's not like it's a bail out/save call. All that being said, it's not like the double whistle looked bad. Only people that would question the actions of the L and C are other officials.

...and I had PC.

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

All that being said, it's not like the double whistle looked bad.

I agree, provided the Lead doesn't signal immediately as well. I don't know why the Lead put his arm down so fast.....leaving it up a second or two strengthens the double whistle.

[Raymond]

Looking at this again, the Lead is not even looking at the crash, his eyes are on the 2 post players. He can only see the crash from his peripheral. This makes it even more perplexing to me as to why he had a whistle.

[Referee24.7]

Lead shouldn't have a whistle on this at all - the defender clearly comes from center's primary.

That being said - I have an offensive foul - you move that clip in slow motion, you can see the defender has 2 feet, facing the defender before she starts her try.

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I see no reason for a whistle from the lead. And I have a player control foul.

Hate when I have to agree with you....on both accounts !!!!

As to th double whistle, somebody said earlier that they were ok with it becasuse it was a secondary defender.......Hogwash !!! Look where the secondary defender comes from. If you agree that the L whistle is OK, then he must be refereeing that girl the entire play. She comes from the C"s primary. That girl didn't come from his area anyway there are players in his area....TRUST YOUR PARTNER !!!!

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Hate when I have to agree with you....on both accounts !!!!

As to th double whistle, somebody said earlier that they were ok with it becasuse it was a secondary defender.......Hogwash !!! Look where the secondary defender comes from. If you agree that the L whistle is OK, then he must be refereeing that girl the entire play. She comes from the C"s primary. That girl didn't come from his area anyway there are players in his area....TRUST YOUR PARTNER !!!!

It was I that noted that I'd be okay with the whistle by the Lead. And I added that it's best that the C take the call.
The Lead had just crossed the key, the contact/foul was in the key, and he immediately dropped his arm when he realized that C had the call.
Had he waited just a fraction longer, such that, if the C had a whistle, as she did, he would not have needed to blow his. And then, if she didn't, his whistle would be regarded as a good get, for the sake of the crew.
Teaching, and learning, good cadence, especially on secondary areas/whistles is not a basic skill, for many officials. I have a feeling that a supervisor for this crew most likely would mention this play in that context. As you said, "trust your partner(s)."