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Old Thu Mar 06, 2014, 05:44pm
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Block/PC + Positioning (video)

Utah again. This is actually two plays/instances of contact in one clip.

The positioning of the T is a concern but this is why I get annoyed when two-person crews are used in HS tournament games on NCAA courts. We get overly concerned with being beaten to the other end. It appears Utah uses three-person crews at its highest levels (4A & 5A). This game is 2A.


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Old Thu Mar 06, 2014, 05:47pm
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PC ... then block.
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Old Thu Mar 06, 2014, 06:15pm
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No call on the 1st, but I wouldn't argue if someone wanted to call that a PC.
On the 2nd I've got a PC.
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Old Thu Mar 06, 2014, 06:17pm
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First contact looks like an off balance defender. The second contact is a block.

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Old Thu Mar 06, 2014, 07:09pm
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First could be a PC, but likely leaving it alone is best.
The second is a CLEAR PC. The defender obtains LGP prior to contact and the offensive player gets no time or distance as he has the ball. Pausing the video proves this.
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Old Thu Mar 06, 2014, 07:29pm
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I think I'm leaving the first part alone. The dribbler doesn't appear to extend an arm to push, and the defender only moves as much as he does because he's so much smaller... not because he was pushed hard. I see too often where a foul is called on somebody just because they are bigger and going against a smaller player who falls.

I agree that the second is a PC foul, as I see the defender gain LGP against the second dribbler before getting pushed to the floor.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2014, 05:06pm
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Old Sat Mar 08, 2014, 09:54pm
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I got nothing on the first, possibly block in 2 person, and I have a block, easy, on the second. First appears marginal, but in two person I can see being out of position and making a call. Second defender is not in his oath and moving into offense at time of contact. Easy block call.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2014, 09:49am
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#1) nothing

#2) PC
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2014, 03:06pm
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Utah again. This is actually two plays/instances of contact in one clip.

The positioning of the T is a concern but this is why I get annoyed when two-person crews are used in HS tournament games on NCAA courts. We get overly concerned with being beaten to the other end. It appears Utah uses three-person crews at its highest levels (4A & 5A). This game is 2A.
Jet, your assumption is correct about 2 and three man. 3 man is used for 4A and 5A boys and girls all of the time and 3A during the state tourney only.

As for the calls, the first I have nothing but if someone demands a whistle, PC. The second, PC.
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